Tuesday, 31 July 2012

Copyright Tuesday: Anonymous logo copyright and (Circa 2008) Radiohead To Prince: Unblock 'Creep' YouTube Vids

quote [ After word spread that Prince covered Radiohead's "Creep" at the Coachella festival, the tens of thousands who couldn't be there ran to YouTube for a peek. Everyone was quickly denied -- even Radiohead. ]

What a creep! (Main link goes to vimeo)

*Super Bonus!!!: See extended for a company copywriting 4chan's Anonymous logo)

**Super duper bonus (because lilmookie loves you): knex skeetball machine in comments

Creep:
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After word spread that Prince covered Radiohead's "Creep" at the Coachella festival, the tens of thousands who couldn't be there ran to YouTube for a peek. Everyone was quickly denied -- even Radiohead.

All videos of Prince's unique rendition of Radiohead's early hit were quickly taken down, leaving only a message that his label, NPG Records, had removed the clips, claiming a copyright violation. But the posted videos were shot by fans and, obviously, the song isn't Prince's.

In a recent interview, Thom Yorke said he heard about Prince's performance from a text message and thought it was "hilarious." Yorke laughed when his bandmate, guitarist Ed O'Brien, said the blocking had prevented even him from seeing Prince's version of their song.

"Really? He's blocked it?" asked Yorke, who figured it was their song to block or not. "Surely we should block it. Hang on a moment." Yorke added, "Well, tell him to unblock it. It's our ... song."

YouTube prohibits the posting of copyrighted material. If the site receives a complaint from a copyright owner, it will in most cases remove the video(s). Whether the same could be done for a company not holding a copyright is less clear, but Yorke's argument would seem to bear some credence according to YouTube's policies. YouTube, which is owned by Google, declined to comment.

Prince also did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

The dispute was an interesting twist in debates over digital ownership, held between two major acts with differing views on music and the Internet. Radiohead famously released their most recent album, "In Rainbows," as a digital download with optional pricing. They also have a channel on YouTube.

When Prince performed at Coachella on April 26, he prohibited the standard arrangement of allowing photographers to shoot near the stage during the first three songs of his set. Instead, he had a camera crew filming his performance.

Prince, who founded NPG Records in 1993, has been innovative when it comes to music distribution, too. He released his 1997 album, "Crystal Ball," on the Internet and in 2006 was awarded a lifetime achievement award by the Webbys. In 2007, he gave away copies of his disc "Planet Earth" in a British Sunday newspaper.

But the Purple One has also shut down his official Web site and last September said he would sue YouTube and eBay for not filtering unauthorized content.

Prince fans have organized to urge him to relent in his legal fights to control images and photographs of himself. As of yesterday, the most popular YouTube clip about Prince playing "Creep" is an expletive-laden rant from Sam Conti Jr., who describes himself as a "former Prince fan."


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Anonymous Copy Right Article
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A French company called Early Flicker is trying to trademark the logo and slogan of the loosely associated hacktivist group Anonymous.

In a trademark filing from earlier this year (and spotted by @asher_wolf), a person called Apollinaire Auffret from Early Flicker applied to the Institut National De La Propriété Industrielle (INPI) to protect the logo, which features a headless suited man, standing before a globe and flanked by a wreath. The same company has also applied to protect the accompanying slogan: "Anonymous. We are legion. We do not forgive. We do not forget. Expect us."

The company has registered the trademark for a range of different product categories, including clothing, handbags and accessories and cooking and cleaning utensils. You can check out some of Early Flicker's quality range on eBay, which includes audio accessories, t-shirts, iPhone covers and other such tat. The company is already selling Anonymous-branded clothing.

Given that Anonymous generally fights against stringently-applied intellectual property law, large corporations and supports an open and free internet, it seems like a strange move to try and trademark the loosely associated hacktivist group's logo.

Or perhaps it's a bit of epic trolling? Or a bid to get more traffic to the company's online store?

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-07/31/trademark-anonymous-logo

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[music] [by lilmookieesquire@7:43pmGMT] [+4]

Comments

gunthar said @ 8:02pm GMT on 31st Jul
DENGIT PRINCE
lilmookieesquire said @ 8:26pm GMT on 31st Jul
http://therevolvinginternet.com/
lilmookieesquire said @ 8:03pm GMT on 31st Jul [Score:3]
Also:

ahPook said @ 9:25pm GMT on 31st Jul [Score:1 Insightful]
That's mind boggling. Not only for the talent (and egos) assembled on one stage but because Prince is so whacked he can't play or sing, rips his shirt off and pulls down a prop lamp-post. Deserves 100 million hits.
Naruki said @ 12:20am GMT on 1st Aug
Dude, I doubt Prince could take 10 decent hits before going down.
landsky said @ 12:45am GMT on 1st Aug

Going down on the Prince:



Supreme_Coconut said @ 2:01am GMT on 1st Aug
Really? His dick is on his knee? No? Then why the fuck do people think she's going down on him?
mechanical contrivance said @ 2:48am GMT on 1st Aug
No one thinks that. It's still a funny picture, though.
spite48 said @ 3:48pm GMT on 1st Aug [Score:2]
Speak for yourself. I firmly believe that he has a long upwardly curved penis, not unlike an elephant's trunk - and that she is blowing him in full public view.
landsky said @ 2:51am GMT on 2nd Aug

Thee English do have an elephant trunk quality.


landsky said @ 12:54am GMT on 1st Aug [Score:2 Underrated]
A bit better quality:

lilmookieesquire said @ 8:12pm GMT on 31st Jul [Score:2]
Knexs Skeetball Machine: (the only non knex parts are the rubberband and paper to display the score)

selfimportant said @ 12:44pm GMT on 1st Aug
Skeetball?
lilmookieesquire said @ 5:56am GMT on 2nd Aug
Skeeball.
I always think of "skeeter" for some reason.
lilmookieesquire said @ 8:27pm GMT on 31st Jul
Now if you gentleman (and the fine fine ladies of SE) will excuse me, I have a study session to continue
spazm said @ 9:27pm GMT on 31st Jul
I'm wondering who designed the actual copyright logo, and if s/he gets royalties for it.
dreamingzephyr said @ 11:21pm GMT on 31st Jul
Prince has long been a douche about copyright. He forced my favorite a capella group to pull their cover of Raspberry Beret from YouTube.
GordonGuano said @ 12:54am GMT on 1st Aug
Not to mention never letting "Weird Al" Yankovic parody any of his songs. I've heard that Prince only listens to his own music. Normally I'd say something scathing and over the top, but I couldn't think of too many worse punishments, to be honest.
willrogers said @ 2:14am GMT on 1st Aug
He's supposed to have gotten even weirder since he became a Jehovah's Witness.

Kevin Smith recounts some anecdotes about Prince's oddities in one of his "An Evening with Kevin Smith" movies. Say what you will about Smith's other movies, but he's actually a very good public speaker and has some great stories to tell.
Cakkafracle said @ 11:39pm GMT on 31st Jul [Score:2 Insightful]
If only his version of Creep didn't suck
Nick said @ 12:07am GMT on 1st Aug
I thought it was quite clever. Instead of singing as the eponymous Creep, he switches the narrative and sings the same song but from the perspective of the aloof, out of reach love interest, which probably fits his public persona better.
Cakkafracle said @ 12:11am GMT on 1st Aug
I guess I'm a bit of a RH purist, he got the timing all wrong in the first verses so it irked me :P
GordonGuano said @ 12:56am GMT on 1st Aug [Score:1 Insightful]
It made me think of "Bleedin' Gums" Murphy's rendition of the national anthem that went on from late afternoon to well after dark. tl;dl
tom the fish said @ 3:37am GMT on 1st Aug
ENZ said @ 4:59am GMT on 1st Aug
Wait, how the hell can you copyright something that's in the public domain?
Vernes said @ 1:38pm GMT on 1st Aug
Quite easy as it seems.
eIfish said @ 3:20pm GMT on 1st Aug [Score:3 Informative]
1) Nothing's in the public domain, unless explicity released by its copyright holder. Widely-copied is not the same as public domain. For example, all the Nyan Cat stuff on Xbox Indie Games has to use a soundalike for the song, because the author hasn't released it to the public domain, and couldn't anyway because it's a rearrangement.

2) Copyright protects individual works, not concepts. Ignoring derived works for a second, if I draw a picture of anon, that's my original work, and copyright automatically resides in it.

3) Trademark law protects concepts, at least to an extent. I can't draw an original work of Ronald McDonald promoting my takeaway, because he's a trademark of McDonalds, and they'd sue me to Antarctica. That the image is not copied from any work controlled by McDonalds doesn't stop it infringing their trademark.

4) The other thing that protects concepts is the concept of a derived work. If a work is not completely original, but instead builds on other works (My Little Pony fanfiction, for example), both the author(s) of the work and the author(s) of the work(s) that it derives from have a copyright to it, and anyone wanting to exercise any of the reserved rights needs to acquire a license from all of the authors. If the authors can't all be found, or one of them is uncooperative, or if there are simply so many of them as to make clearing intractable derived works can languish forever in a legal quagmire.




So after all that, what of anon? The post is actually incorrect: the company is trying to trademark the image and slogans, not copyright them. This is not unlawful or impossible per se; think how many dictionary words (apple, windows, nestle, kindle) or public-domain pictures or symbols have been made into defensible trademarks.

The thing about trademarks, though, is that they're only defensible if you defend them. You couldn't trademark "LOL", unless you managed to stop the vast majority of uses of it that refer to things that aren't you or your products. See "kleenex", "thermos" and "hoover" for examples of trademarks that have become unenforceable from falling into common use (and Xerox's ongoing battle to stop that happening to their name).

To defend the images and slogans these people are trying to trademark, they'd have to show that other people weren't using them to refer to anything else, for instance a global anticapitalist protest, or trolling and hacking ventures big and small, or all over the place on the world's largest messageboard.

They, themselves, aren't in any risk of litigation, only by virtue of the works they're trying to use as trademarks having no clear owner with standing to sue them. What they're trying to do is the same as trying to trademark Mickey Mouse, except that Disney can step up and prove that they're the author and trademark-holder, and has the resources to do so.

To this company, I say good luck. If they provoke /b/, they'll need it.
ENZ said @ 6:12pm GMT on 1st Aug
My head hurts, but thanks.

This isn't the first time some meme shit has made its way onto cheaply made merchandise. I seriously saw Brony shirts at the mall in some music store. It's just the first I've heard of anyone trying to make any kind of legal claim to any.

And yeah, Anon has taken on government-contracted security companies and made them their bitch. Woe to this clothing company if they try to overstep themselves on this.
taeyn said @ 12:05am GMT on 3rd Aug
They have? You mean they DDOS'd em for a while then got bored?
CapnSilver said @ 10:01am GMT on 1st Aug
Lol this doesn't work for me
lilmookieesquire said @ 3:04pm GMT on 1st Aug
Can I interest you in a shaky handheld phonecam youtube clip?:

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