Sensible Erection | Libya: Muslim Brotherhood to lead government

Friday, 6 July 2012

Libya: Muslim Brotherhood to lead government

quote [ While the elections for a 200-member National Congress is unlikely to grant a majority to any one faction, the Muslim Brotherhood and its Islamist allies are confident they can join their counterparts in Tunisia and Egypt at the helm of leadership. ]

[by erich wiess@9:17amGMT] [+4 Informative]

Comments

pleaides said @ 10:28am GMT on 6th Jul [Score:1 Insightful]
I was planning on making this a post of its own, but seeing as we're on a similar topic I thought I'd share this here;

http://dawn.com/2012/07/05/exit-god-enter-madness/

It's a very alarming picture of what Pakistan's become these days. It's a pretty long article, but worth the time imho.

I hope that's ok with you Erich :)

scojam said @ 4:35pm GMT on 6th Jul
Except for the name of the book it sounded like a story out of middle ages Europe only more compassionate. At least they killed the blasphemer before they set him on fire.

They didn't know his name but it could have been Jesus or Mohammed on his second coming.

Well at least it will provide an inspiration for a Simpsons episode, or maybe Law and Order.

"...and man made God in his image and likeness and set him loose in the minds of the easily conned but highly imaginative faithfull."

lilmookieesquire said @ 4:59pm GMT on 6th Jul
So it's like the South in the 1950/60s?

selfimportant said @ 12:05am GMT on 8th Jul [Score:1 Funny]
Hmm yes, the resemblance is uncanny

sanepride said @ 4:00pm GMT on 6th Jul [Score:1 Insightful]
Ya sure are getting a lot of mileage out of that thumb erich.

cb361 said @ 8:29pm GMT on 6th Jul [Score:2 Insightful]
Islamic calligraphy is certainly beautiful.

valen85 said @ 5:07pm GMT on 6th Jul [Score:1 Underrated]
I never understood why you guys were so happy about the Arab spring. I`d much prefer corrupt, Bentley driving, western educated crooks running those countries than religiously motivated and nationalistic true believers as leaders of the Middle East.

maryyugo said @ 6:56pm GMT on 6th Jul [Score:1 Insightful]
Those are the only options?

sensibleb said @ 6:57pm GMT on 6th Jul [Score:1 Insightful]
Religiously-motivated crooks driving Bentleys? That's only in America.

maryyugo said @ 6:59pm GMT on 6th Jul
Well, they rarely kill people and they are frequently prosecuted so they are not all bad.

foobar said @ 10:31pm GMT on 6th Jul
They spend more on killing people than most other nations combined.

selfimportant said @ 12:02am GMT on 8th Jul
Interesting accounting methods

eggboy said @ 10:51pm GMT on 6th Jul
Wat?

theolypse said @ 1:05am GMT on 7th Jul
hahahahahahahawhat.

valen85 said @ 12:08am GMT on 7th Jul
In that part of the world, yes.

theolypse said @ 1:07am GMT on 7th Jul
Because we are naive and lazy socialist westerners who will be overrun by the moslem menace, obviously.

theolypse said @ 1:08am GMT on 7th Jul
Wait, wrong troll.

maryyugo said @ 6:59pm GMT on 6th Jul
Seems that the "Arab Spring" is determined to ignore the first commandment of successful and humane government: Thou shalt not officially mix government with religion.

papango said @ 8:20pm GMT on 6th Jul
You let yourself down by assuming the 'Arab Spring' is a single thing and the people involved a single entity.

ring riot said @ 8:20am GMT on 9th Jul
You'd hurt your head less if you stopped assuming Maryyugo grasps anything that can't be broken down past "this" or "that".

foobar said @ 10:29pm GMT on 6th Jul
Not sure if ironic, or just kind of stupid.

Note that the most democratic countries in the world, Scandinavia, haven't really followed that 'commandment'.

azazel said @ 11:43pm GMT on 6th Jul [Score:2]
Errrr... what? State and religion is separated in all of Scandinavia, as far as I know. Yes, we do have religion-based parties in Sweden, but they're not legally allowed to legislate based on their religion. Schools are let out in churches, but that's because of tradition, and priests are not legally allowed to speak on those occasions.

foobar said @ 9:17pm GMT on 7th Jul
Sweden had a state church until 2000, Norway ditched theirs two months ago, and Denmark still has one.

But yes, I do recognize that all three are de facto among the most secular societies anyway. My point is that different societies can come to the same, or even better outcomes without following the rules that others do.

azazel said @ 10:18pm GMT on 7th Jul
Fair enough. Denmark's the ugly stepchild of Scandinavia anyway. :P

danshyu said @ 7:27pm GMT on 6th Jul
None of our business, they have the rights to vote their rights away.

maryyugo said @ 8:00pm GMT on 6th Jul
Not necessarily. One of the strengths of the USA system and Constitution, Bill of Rights and checks and balances is that it is exceedingly difficult if not impossible to vote basic human rights away.

papango said @ 8:19pm GMT on 6th Jul [Score:5 Insightful]
But, those documents only apply to the US. Other countries need to develop their own constitutional systems. It's not something that can be parachuted in. And danshyu is right. I don't like the Muslim Brotherhood, and I think a huge part of their win in Egypt was down to better organisation on the ground (they have been working their for decades doing the social work the government was too corrupt or incompetent to do itself) rather than reflecting the Arab Spring as it happened in that country. But they won the election. I think the opposition will be better organised next time and the level of discontent will rise as the Brotherhood is a party of old men and the Arab Spring was mostly a youth movement.

eggboy said @ 10:51pm GMT on 6th Jul [Score:1 Insightful]
In the meantime I don't think they will do too much damage if the old men of the Brotherhood can stay out of bed with the military. They seem pretty deadset on not alienating the coptics, atleast the old crotchetey conservative coptic men. I think they realise they got into power on the backs of motivated young people, so they won't be outlawing tattoos and booze til they have consolidated power, everyone's settled down a bit and they've leaned how to run a country. Should hopefully be enough time for a younger secular party to be properly organised.

Anyhoo, I remain cautiously optimistic, just cause someone got voted in doesn't mean they will be the new dictators for the next 20 or so years.

erich wiess said @ 11:13pm GMT on 9th Jul [Score:-1 Troll]

You’ll have to excuse ring riot. He was one of the many who smugly predicted that the Arab Spring would result in our Arab brothers and sisters holding hands, singing Kumbaya, and organizing gay pride parades. Instead, they’ve elected a totalitarian religious regime, and begun the predictable decent into more thuggery and creeping Sharia law – which is a pretty serious blow to his worldview.

If you doubt any of this, consider his irate reaction to simply reporting the news that Muslim Brotherhood has won power in Libya. To him, this is “transparently passive-aggressive "Muslims are bad!", etc”. But it’s none of this - this is just what’s happening – no editorial comment whatsoever.

To guys like ring riot, the news itself is anti-Muslim, which, of course, it is.

I told him this was going to happen in these countries. Other here did too. He’s just pissed because we were right and he was so utterly wrong.

Unfortunately for ring riot, the headlines are going to continue disproving his worldview for years to come.

Naruki said @ 2:28am GMT on 10th Jul
Hey erich, your mom called. She says "woof".

anagramophone said @ 9:54pm GMT on 6th Jul [Score:2 Underrated]

ring riot said @ 8:18am GMT on 9th Jul
This is SO funny. I haven't visited SE in years, at this point, I think. I come back to see what's going on, and the front page literally has Maryyugo and Houdini up there doing their usual transparently passive-aggressive "Muslims are bad!" posts. Seriously? After YEARS? The SAME SHIT? I don't think I've laughed so hard since I heard Romney's top adviser admit that the individual mandate is a penalty.

pleaides said @ 9:41am GMT on 9th Jul
Either you've got a mary detector or you two are the same person. Mary hasn't posted in months, and I haven't seen you around here for roughly the same amount of time.