Wednesday, 20 June 2012

New "NSA"* docs contradict 9/11 claims *Not really the NSA

quote [ “I don’t think the Bush administration would want to see these released, because they paint a picture of the CIA knowing something would happen before 9/11, but they didn’t get the institutional support they needed,” says Barbara Elias-Sanborn, the NSA fellow who edited the materials. ]

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Over 120 CIA documents concerning 9/11, Osama bin Laden and counterterrorism were published today for the first time, having been newly declassified and released to the National Security Archive. The documents were released after the NSA pored through the footnotes of the 9/11 Commission and sent Freedom of Information Act requests.

The material contains much new information about the hunt before and after 9/11 for bin Laden, the development of the drone campaign in AfPak, and al-Qaida’s relationship with America’s ally, Pakistan. Perhaps most damning are the documents showing that the CIA had bin Laden in its cross hairs a full year before 9/11 — but didn’t get the funding from the Bush administration White House to take him out or even continue monitoring him. The CIA materials directly contradict the many claims of Bush officials that it was aggressively pursuing al-Qaida prior to 9/11, and that nobody could have predicted the attacks. “I don’t think the Bush administration would want to see these released, because they paint a picture of the CIA knowing something would happen before 9/11, but they didn’t get the institutional support they needed,” says Barbara Elias-Sanborn, the NSA fellow who edited the materials.

Let’s start there. In 2000 and 2001, the CIA began using Predator Unmanned Aerial Vehicles in Afghanistan. “The idea of using UAVs originated in April 2000 as a result of a request from the NSC’s Coordinator for Counterterrorism to the CIA and the Department of Defense to come up with new ideas to go after the terrorists in Afghanistan,” a 2004 document summarizes. The Pentagon approved the plan for surveillance purposes.

And yet, simultaneously, the CIA declared that budget concerns were forcing it to move its Counterterrorism Center/Osama bin Laden Unit from an “offensive” to a “defensive” posture. For the CIA, that meant trying to get Afghan tribal leaders and the Northern Alliance to kill or capture bin Laden, Elias-Sanborn says. “It was forced to be less of a kinetic operation,” she says. “It had to be only for surveillance, which was not what they considered an offensive posture.”

“Budget concerns … CT [counterterrorism] supplemental still at NSC-OMB [National Security Council – Office of Management and Budget] level,” an April 2000 document reads. “Need forward movement on supplemental soonest due to expected early recess due to conventions, campaigning and elections.” In addition, the Air Force told the CIA that if it lost a drone, the CIA would have to pay for it, which made the agency more reluctant to use the technology.

Still, the drone program began in September 2000. One drone swiftly twice observed an individual “most likely to have been Bin Laden.” But since the CIA only had permission to use the drones for intelligence gathering, it had no way to act on its findings. The agency submitted a proposal to the National Security Council staff in December 2000 that would have significantly expanded the program. “It was too late for the departing Clinton Administration to take action on this strategic request,” however. It wasn’t too late for the Bush administration, though. It just never did.

Former National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice has taken credit for the drone program that the Bush administration ignored. “Things like working to get an armed Predator that actually turned out to be extraordinarily important, working to get a strategy that would allow us to get better cooperation from Pakistan and from the Central Asians,” she said in 2006. “We were not left a comprehensive strategy to fight al-Qaida.” Rice claimed that the Bush administration continued the Clinton administration’s counterterrorism policies, a claim the documents disprove. “If the administration wanted to get it done, I’m sure they could have gotten it done,” says Elias-Sanborn.

Many of the documents publicize for the first time what was first made clear in the 9/11 Commission: The White House received a truly remarkable amount of warnings that al-Qaida was trying to attack the United States. From June to September 2001, a full seven CIA Senior Intelligence Briefs detailed that attacks were imminent, an incredible amount of information from one intelligence agency. One from June called “Bin-Ladin and Associates Making Near-Term Threats” writes that “[redacted] expects Usama Bin Laden to launch multiple attacks over the coming days.” The famous August brief called “Bin Ladin Determined to Strike the US” is included. “Al-Qai’da members, including some US citizens, have resided in or travelled to the US for years, and the group apparently maintains a support structure here,” it says. During the entire month of August, President Bush was on vacation at his ranch in Texas — which tied with one of Richard Nixon’s as the longest vacation ever taken by a president. CIA Director George Tenet has said he didn’t speak to Bush once that month, describing the president as being “on leave.” Bush did not hold a Principals’ meeting on terrorism until September 4, 2001, having downgraded the meetings to a deputies’ meeting, which then-counterterrorism czar Richard Clarke has repeatedly said slowed down anti-Bin Laden efforts “enormously, by months.”

For all the information the documents reveal, one huge matter is conspicuously absent: torture. There are nearly 50 CIA documents relating to such matters as the interrogation of 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and the intelligence gleaned from him, and yet “none of them were declassified at all,” notes Elias-Sanborn. “Certainly, the CIA has a stake in revealing what they did,” and they clearly do not want to reveal their complicity in war crimes.

One last thing is worth mentioning from the documents published today: Anyone with any doubt that the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is dangerous to the United States is contradicting U.S. intelligence. “Violence between Israelis and the Palestinians, moreover is making Sunni extremists more willing to participate in attacks against US or Israeli interests,” the CIA wrote in February 2001. It is not the only piece of information revealed by the new documents that will be deeply uncomfortable for the Bush administration and hawks across the country.

Jordan Michael Smith writes about U.S. foreign policy for Salon. He has written for the New York Times, Boston Globe and Washington Post.
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Loosely related Article:
Independents and moderates agree: GOP deliberately sabotaging Obama’s jobs policies
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/independents-and-moderates-agree-gop-deliberately-sabotaging-obamas-jobs-policies/2011/11/07/gIQAPMfSvM_blog.html

Posted at 10:45 AM ET, 11/07/2011
Independents and moderates agree: GOP deliberately sabotaging Obama’s jobs policies
By Greg Sargent
Ever since Obama began aggressively calling out the GOP for obstructing his jobs policies, insisting that Republicans are “putting party before country,” pundits have ominously warned that he risks alienating the middle of the country with such a stark, partisan and finger-pointing message.

But the new Post poll finds that independents and moderates essentially accept Obama’s diagnosis of what’s going on — majorities of both groups agree that Republicans are blocking Obama’s good faith efforts to fix the economy for political reasons.

As I noted below, the Post poll asks people to choose between two options. This: “President Obama is making a good faith effort to deal with the country’s economic problems, but the Republicans in Congress are playing politics by blocking his proposals and programs.” Or this: “President Obama has not provided leadership on the economy, and he is just blaming the Republicans in Congress as an excuse for not doing his job.”

The toplines: Americans agree with the first statement over the second one, 50-44. According to numbers sent my way by the Post polling team, this is more pronounced among moderates and independents:

* Independents favor statement one over statement two by 54-40.

* Moderates favor statement one over statement two by 57-37.

The overall number is lower, at 50 percent, because a hilarously meager nine percent of Republicans believe this to be the case.

I know I’m repeating myself here, but it turns out this voter awareness doesn’t necessarily benefit Obama. Voters who are inclined to believe the worst about Republicans might still conclude that Obama’s failure to get his policies passed shows he’s inffectual. Indeed, in the same Post poll, 53 percent of independents give Obama a negative rating on whether he’s a strong leader!

Steve Benen put it very well:

Voters’ understanding of the political process is severely limited, and many Americans likely fail to appreciate the role Congress must play in policymaking. There are no doubt plenty of voters thinking, “Sure, Republicans are sabotaging the economy, but why can’t Obama just go around them?” unaware of the fact that, on a grand scale, this isn’t an option.
And so, a question. We now know that Americans — particularly the middle of the road ones voters who are supposed to be alienated by this kind of talk — are receptive to the argument that Republicans are blocking Obama’s efforts at fixing the economy for political reasons. For all their very real disapproval of Obama, they think one party is acting in good faith to fix the economy, and the other isn’t. So when is the national political press going to start seriously covering this aspect of the debate?

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Comments

donnie said @ 7:11pm GMT on 20th Jun [Score:-1 Troll]
...ahem
Jewbacchus said @ 12:19am GMT on 21st Jun
You know what I'm gonna say.
sanepride said @ 7:25pm GMT on 20th Jun
Doesn't seem like much really new here, just heavily redacted affirmations of inaction and ineptitude that had already been revealed.
I can't help but wonder thought if the aggressiveness of the Obama drone program isn't a direct reaction to the knowledge of these failures.
skoob666 said @ 10:07pm GMT on 20th Jun
It almost has to be.

But what really pisses me off is it's cheap and lazy. A fucking drone didn't get Osama, actual groundwork and a real raid with real soldiers is what got him. We've dumped trillions of dollars into this war now and it's still the 'old-fashioned' way of tracking people down and shooting them in the face that works best.
sanepride said @ 11:03pm GMT on 20th Jun
The military wanted to take out Osama with a drone or missile strike, they ended up using boots on the ground because they wanted to be absolutely sure they got him and bring home a body.

Is it cheap and lazy using drones? It's certainly expedient. I think the main advantage is that it's a lot more sanitized. You can project deadly force a lot more easily and without risk to soldiers - and this also makes for political expediency. And of course there's a lot less accountability. Civilian deaths, accidents and atrocities will occur in war either way. It's a lot easier to rationalize it when it's not done by live soldiers.
Didel said @ 7:30pm GMT on 20th Jun [Score:4]
First off, this is not the NSA, the NSA is the National Security Agency, this is the National Security Archive. One is a huge branch of the US Security apparatus, the other is a fairly small non-profit/academic institute designed for openness of governments.

I did a double take when I saw that NSA documents were supposedly released, only to realize that this was just a FOIA aout Bin Laden, quite interesting none the less, but not the same as actual NSA documents being released.

Secondly, the author/editor of this report says, "oh, the CIA due to the Bush administration wouldn't use their drones for anything other than surveillance." As if even when they supposedly spotted Bin Laden in 1999, 2000, early 2001, they could have done anything about it with their drones. The US did not have armed predator drones in service until after 9/11. And in order to make sure that they had killed Bin Laden, they would have pretty much required a mission like the one we did use to kill Bin Laden, that way we can actually make sure it was Bin Laden. Because from 20,000 feet up, old guys with a beard and wearing tribal dress all look alike.

Though this is interesting in a new perspective at how the CIA and administration screwed the pooch. But not killing Bin Laden with an armed drone (which didn't exist) isn't one of those screw ups.
cb361 said @ 8:35pm GMT on 20th Jun [Score:3 Funny]
From 20,000 feet, Osama Bin Laden looks very much like a wedding.
DuncmanG said @ 9:22pm GMT on 20th Jun
Also true from .0000002 feet.
sanepride said @ 8:56pm GMT on 20th Jun
Also of course it needs to be fairly noted that the Bush administration didn't begin until January 2001. So while there were plenty of alarming warnings and memos between then and September 11, 2001- anything prior would have been the Clinton administration.
willrogers said @ 10:13pm GMT on 20th Jun
True, but the most important and retrospectively damning evidence came during the Bush Administration, such as reports from flight instructors, local law enforcement, and FBI agents that the men who would eventually be the 9/11 hijackers were trying to attend flight schools around the country but were interested only in how to fly an airplane mid-air, explicitly expressing disinterest in how to successfully takeoff and land.

That said, it's unfair and disingenuous to just blame the Bush Administration for systemic problems in national security agencies that had been growing and festering for decades. Pretty much every administration before and including Bush's for the past 30 years is partly responsible for not doing anything about the rivalry and lack of communication between agencies like the FBI and CIA, which were crucial in missing and/or mishandling important evidence that might have prevented the 9/11 attacks.
arrowhen said @ 8:21pm GMT on 20th Jun [Score:5 Funny]
9/11 was born in Kenya on a grassy knoll that causes autism. WAKE UP, SHEEPLE!
cb361 said @ 8:38pm GMT on 20th Jun [Score:1 WTF]
The Gates Foundation is funding Malaria treatment in Africa as part of a plan to wipe out a large part of the human race and reduce overpopulation.

I really wish that I hadn't been told that in utter seriousness by someone I care for.
sanepride said @ 8:52pm GMT on 20th Jun
'care for' in the sense of having strong feelings for, or in the sense of spoon-feeding and changing their diapers?
cb361 said @ 9:00pm GMT on 20th Jun
The former. The latter probably comes later.
sanepride said @ 9:20pm GMT on 20th Jun
That's too bad. I'm assuming it's a family member. I'd hate to think you'd be caring for someone so, um, misguided by choice.
cb361 said @ 9:21pm GMT on 20th Jun
A quick google makes me sad.

Do you get it? They are killing us! They are deciding who lives and who dies! They are sterilizing women and children who are at the prime of child rearing ages. Making the elderly sick so they die faster.

I should point out the person who told me this is most definitely not mentally ill, although dealing with proper mental illness has made me much less sympathetic. Because Hell, for all I know, it might all be true. But this kind of stuff isn't based on hard evidence, it's based on a fundamental view of how the world works. And you can't argue with the fundamental building blocks that make up a psyche any more than you can argue with mental illness.
flat_michael said @ 11:01pm GMT on 20th Jun
I really hope you laughed in his/her face. Because fuck.
Seneki69 said @ 1:13am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:2]
Are they an Apple fan?
feldenglas said @ 11:48pm GMT on 20th Jun
Stole this, posted it uncredited to my facebook wall. Amazing
atter_cob said @ 10:51pm GMT on 20th Jun [Score:1 Good]
This is not "The NSA" this is some goofy little organization that has the initials NSA. Maybe I'll start an organization called "Fucking Butt-headded Idiots" and we can call ourselves the FBI. Then we can do random shit and people will write articles like "FBI releases papers showing that GW Bush would frequently fuck sheep".

lilmookieesquire said @ 12:56am GMT on 21st Jun
I copy and pasted the article title, but just for you I altered it.
sanepride said @ 2:35am GMT on 21st Jun
This isn't the NSA you're looking for...
lilmookieesquire said @ 6:16am GMT on 21st Jun
This is not the NSA I am looking for.
Move along.
papango said @ 9:05am GMT on 21st Jun
You're right. This has nothing to do with the Nebraska Soybean Association.

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