Sensible Erection | Arizona Senate Discussing the Criminalization of Passive Resistance

Monday, 19 March 2012

Arizona Senate Discussing the Criminalization of Passive Resistance

quote [ TO: MEMBERS OF THE SENATE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE

DATE: March 9, 2012

SUBJECT: Strike everything amendment to H.B. 2071, relating to resisting arrest

Purpose
Establishes, as a class one misdemeanor, the crime of resisting arrest by passive resistance. ]

[politics] [by xgp007@10:15pmGMT] [+10 WTF]

Comments

GordonGuano said @ 10:20pm GMT on 19th Mar
AZSoc prevails.

moriati said @ 10:22pm GMT on 19th Mar
"That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness".

Bet old George III doesn't seem so bad right about now.

GordonGuano said @ 10:24pm GMT on 19th Mar
Y'know, I like to think that shit like this is the death rattle of a failed ideology, but it never really goes away. It just hibernates, like locusts, and then emerges every generation, to much the same effect. On the bright side, it could always be worse.

xgp007 said @ 10:28pm GMT on 19th Mar
President Santorum.

sanepride said @ 10:31pm GMT on 19th Mar [Score:1 Insightful]
I'm getting a little fed up here with these post titles saying this or that terrible thing will happen when nothing of the sort is true.
This seems to be just a proposed amendment to an appropriations bill. The name at the top is "CHRIS CARPENTER, LEGISLATIVE INTERN".

Could you please dig up some actual news item backing up your claim that "Arizona to Criminalize Passive Resistance"?

schatten00777 said @ 10:39pm GMT on 19th Mar
I agree that these post titles and news headlines are misleading. But I still think that they should be reported on because they could potentially become huge issues. They just should be reported on with that in mind.

sanepride said @ 10:58pm GMT on 19th Mar
Sure it should be reported on if it ever appears to actually have a chance on becoming law. This appears to be just something somebody on the AZ Senate appropriations committee just decided to look into. It's certainly not news that the AZ Senate seems to be heavily influenced by screw heads and troglodytes.

mrcucumber said @ 1:40pm GMT on 20th Mar
SE isn't the NY Times or the Huffington post, so what's a little sarcasm, hyperbole, or sensationalism? mirite?

xgp007 said @ 10:44pm GMT on 19th Mar
Legislative interns don't have any kind of autonomy - this is something being seriously discussed in the Senate..Title changed. Better?

sanepride said @ 10:51pm GMT on 19th Mar
Better, but I'd still like to see something more substantive than a snippet of speculation on Daily KOS. Really there's nothing here.
And it bears mentioning that even if this was an actual thing, it's a thing which would be constitutionally DOA. State legislatures no doubt cook up a dozen crazy schemes a week (probably a day in AZ), with barely any even seeing the light of day.

happiest_sadist said @ 6:34am GMT on 20th Mar
I'm not sure "constitutionally DOA" is a thing. Surely if an unconstitutional law is passed, there isn't any magic that makes it not a law "on arrival"- does it not retain the force of law until a successful court challenge has finally managed to strike it from the books?

sanepride said @ 5:05pm GMT on 20th Mar
Technically you are correct, but a court challenge and constitutional smackdown can occur even within hours of a law's passage. At the very least the law could be immediately temporarily barred from enforcement pending an official ruling.

-_- said @ 10:59pm GMT on 19th Mar
BROWN BAG TESTING TO BEGIN IN AZ SCHOOLS THIS THORSDAY.

In a nod to the Norse population of Arizona brown bag testing will be mandated for entry into schools this Thors-day.
Any child found to have skin darker than a paper bag (Trader Joe's post consumer content paper grocery bag) will be refused access to education or any other form of information excepting Fox News.

In a surprising turn around, the State Capitol Chapter of Angry White People for Undeserved Advantages had this to say:

"Arizona is a very sunny state and the lack of an allowance for tanning is quite disturbing. If the the guards at the door are too concerned about controlling their own sexual impulses to check the skin color inside the bathing-suit area then we should institute a freeze on this law until such time as a sufficient number of eunuchs can be procured from France, or a similarly ball-less white nation."

It is considered unlikely that anything will keep this law from happening and that starting this Thorsday huge tribes of beautifully (but unfortunately) tanned white children will be denied access to information about the world "outside" Arizona.

A spokesman for Arizona's goth population had this to say:

"We're both in favor of this as it stands right now."

sanepride said @ 2:12am GMT on 20th Mar
Actually not so far-fetched in a state where the elected sheriff of Maricopa County is using taxpayer money to investigate President Obama's forged birth certificate.

ComposerNate said @ 10:38pm GMT on 19th Mar [Score:3 WTF]

discoLemonade said @ 1:52am GMT on 20th Mar
What is this from?
I've seen this image around a few times, and it never fails to sort of creep me out, which is impressive as I've seen too many horror movies to count.

Eru said @ 6:01am GMT on 20th Mar
I think it's from a movie called "Grave Encounters".

ComposerNate said @ 9:05am GMT on 20th Mar [Score:1 Funny]

bboy0185 said @ 4:21pm GMT on 20th Mar
Mr. Hands, back from the dead.

lilmookieesquire said @ 10:46pm GMT on 19th Mar
Arizona: The West's Deep South.

Supreme_Coconut said @ 1:35am GMT on 20th Mar
I think even the South looks at Arizona and wonders "what the fuck?" sometimes.

conception said @ 3:32am GMT on 20th Mar
Arizona: Doing their best to become the new Florida.

clumsy_juggler said @ 10:48pm GMT on 19th Mar
This makes the tactic in this article a little less far fetched. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/11/opinion/sunday/go-to-trial-crash-the-justice-system.html

The basic idea is that if everyone who is charged with a crime refused to plea bargain and demanded a jury trial the legal system would grind to a halt.

-_- said @ 11:01pm GMT on 19th Mar [Score:5 Underrated]
Thread combo..

Apple should buy Arizona.

That is all.

spite48 said @ 11:46pm GMT on 19th Mar
I don't know what to think about this. Only Commies support passive resistance, but only Nazis would so blatantly suppress personal liberty and freedom of expression. I'm so confused.

cb361 said @ 11:57pm GMT on 19th Mar
There you are then. This is a pre-emptive strike by the Arizona Nazis party to stop the Arizona Communist parts getting a foothold.

mrcucumber said @ 2:08pm GMT on 20th Mar
I think commies are guilty of blatantly suppressing personal liberty and freedom of expression as much as nazi's. A good communist belongs to the party, and the party doesn't like to partay.

ethanos said @ 12:12am GMT on 20th Mar
And to think their ancestors fled to Arizona to avoid hay fever.

yevishere said @ 2:12am GMT on 20th Mar [Score:3]
Arrested for resisting arrest. Sent to the gulag for 5 years, got out early in 10 for good behavior.

happiest_sadist said @ 6:32am GMT on 20th Mar
There is no anticipated fiscal impact to the state General Fund associated with this legislation; however, there may be costs associated with increased prosecution and incarceration.

So, "costs" don't represent a "financial impact"? Nice.
Of course, there's no way that criminalizing passive resistance could possibly result in active resistance. Perish the thought. Even if it did, no doubt the General Fund would be entirely unimpacted, right?

EPT said @ 8:13am GMT on 20th Mar
Is Arizona trying to take the title of "Craziest State" from California?

Vernes said @ 9:08am GMT on 20th Mar
It's fascinating to watch a nation eat itself.

Silent said @ 11:26am GMT on 20th Mar
Let's just get it over with and make it a crime to disagree with the government, then we'll all know that anyone we see walking around is a true red blooded American or they'd be locked up in the dissenters work house.

ethanos said @ 12:30pm GMT on 20th Mar
Let's just get it over with and kick Arizona out and make them live in Mexico as a white ghetto and see how they like it as a non-ruling minority.

puravida said @ 3:03am GMT on 21st Mar
My conservative cop friend (whose views I can't stand) pointed out to me that this is already illegal in California...

Penal Code Section 148 Resisting Delaying or Obstructing Officer
http://dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/appndxa/penalco/penco148.htm

"Passive resistance" still equals "resisting arrest"

"Passive resistance" does not equal "non-violent disobedience..."
This video helped clarify things for me