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Wednesday, 1 September 2010

Student's nipples explode, but not with delight; school sued

quote [ Read the rest of the account from the boston herald and try not to picture every Three Stooges short you've ever seen:

On March 11, Dubois attached an electrical clamp to one nipple while another student attached another clamp to the other. A third student plugged in the cord.
Dubois was critically injured.
The New Hampshire Union Leader says Dubois' suit contends he suffered permanent brain damage.
Curly places light bulb in mouth. It glows brightly. ]

WTF....

[by JOECAM@3:33pmGMT] [+10 WTF]

Comments

Trorbes said @ 3:41pm GMT on 1st Sep [Score:2 Underrated]
"Dubois' suit contends he suffered permanent brain damage."

You can't sue over a preexisting condition. Also:

"The lawsuit claims DuBois critically injured himself because of his teacher Thomas Kelley’s failure to properly warn of the dangers of electrical currents."

Isn't "don't play with the electrical sockets" something you teach to a toddler?

maryyugo said @ 4:26pm GMT on 1st Sep
You'd think so but many "modern" parents choose instead to drug themselves into oblivion, neglecting anything about their children except maybe bare necessities for survivals. Others teach religion to the exclusion of all reality. Others are too busy fucking their children to teach them anything as if they would be able to remember what they were taught. Darwin's Laws stopped applying to humans fairly recently and it's getting worse.

PottyMouth said @ 4:41pm GMT on 1st Sep
You sound like someone who got raped with a Bible by his his coke-wheezing parents. C'mon, we've all been down that road.

maryyugo said @ 4:43pm GMT on 1st Sep
"... we've all been down that road.

Hey wot?

kishi said @ 3:54pm GMT on 1st Sep
Well, he'd sue himself, but he's obviously not smart enough to defend himself in court if he pulls shit like this.

kink.com said @ 3:59pm GMT on 1st Sep [Score:1 Underrated]
you're doing it wrong

zkhan said @ 5:40pm GMT on 1st Sep [Score:4 Funny]
gnarly

swiggy said @ 4:00pm GMT on 1st Sep
High schooler burned in woodshop, sues school because he was not told "fire is hot" by the teacher.

oddzer said @ 4:08pm GMT on 1st Sep [Score:1 Insightful]
Mind you, if the teacher was there and saw it happening, he SHOULD suffer disciplinary action.

But really.

Transfer said @ 4:13pm GMT on 1st Sep
Some of the kids are claiming the teacher was less than 8 feet away, and was aware of the dare. In fact, conflicting reports indicate that he may have offered the student a Mt. Dew if he did it. In any case, I do believe the teacher should be slightly responsible for not enforcing a slightly higher level of discipline regarding the electrical experimentation apparatus. Hell in Chemistry class our teacher wouldn't let us even read the labels on beakers without putting on an apron and goggles.

PottyMouth said @ 4:54pm GMT on 1st Sep
I think a major problem with this suit is that many of the witnesses are, by definition, mentally retarded. Teenagers are usually far stupider than children many years their junior. Driven batshit by social pressure and hormones, they will spout complete lies to teachers, cops, lawyers, judges, whomever they have to, in order to preserve the notion that they are doing something cool or aiding the cause of someone they think is cool.

I can't wait until my daughter hits this stage. I'm going to kill nine people and go spear bald.

VictorTyne said @ 5:20pm GMT on 1st Sep
Pssh.

I totally dare you to kill ten.

Do it, or you're a loser! And gay!

zkhan said @ 5:23pm GMT on 1st Sep
My son's already at this age. It's a stage, like any other. I call it the 'my God, how did he turn into a selfish dick?' stage.

Gesualdo said @ 7:43pm GMT on 1st Sep [Score:3 Good]
It's a stupid title, but the book Teen 2.0: the case againt adolescence is a great book about this lie our society tends to believe. Teenagers are only stupid because we teach them to be by isolating them from and alienating them to the adult world. With all the ridiculous rules and regulations we enforce on them while simultaneously telling them tou "grow up", we se nd ridiculously mixed messages which have ended up manifesting in a self perpetuating youth culture of idiots which yields such fruits as paris Hilton and every show on MTV.

blibblob said @ 7:08am GMT on 2nd Sep
Following every bend of societal pressure doesn't end with adolescence.

tickaz said @ 4:15pm GMT on 1st Sep
Kelley was allegedly aware of the dare and less than eight feet away when DuBois was shocked, the lawsuit says.

If this allegation is correct, then yes he should have stopped it from happening. Even if the "victim" was a douche who should have known better.

maryyugo said @ 4:24pm GMT on 1st Sep
The student was an ignoramus but that's understandable these days. What's not understandable is the teacher's lack of reaction-- he has no excuse.

Naruki said @ 9:55pm GMT on 1st Sep
Certainly he hasn't the chance to offer any, at least. You've already cut off his air supply with that noose.

ComposerNate said @ 4:09pm GMT on 1st Sep
If only he had a gun.

Scaryface said @ 4:14pm GMT on 1st Sep
And attached it to his nipples...

maryyugo said @ 4:14pm GMT on 1st Sep
Reaction (* NSFW *)

"Shocking... absolutely shocking."

-James Bond in Dr. No

KingPellinore said @ 4:40pm GMT on 1st Sep [Score:1 Informative]
Sorry, that's Goldfinger.

KingPellinore said @ 4:42pm GMT on 1st Sep
Oh, and it was "positively" not "absolutely".

maryyugo said @ 4:44pm GMT on 1st Sep
Thanks. But "That's a Smith and Wesson, and you've had your six."

KingPellinore said @ 4:54pm GMT on 1st Sep
"The first shot won't kill you, nor the second, not even the third — not until you crawl over here and kiss my foot!"

maryyugo said @ 5:19pm GMT on 1st Sep
"That looks like a woman's gun."

KingPellinore said @ 6:16pm GMT on 1st Sep
"He disagreed with something that ate him."

maryyugo said @ 6:58pm GMT on 1st Sep
(after Hans is eaten by piranhas) Bon appetit!

KingPellinore said @ 7:09pm GMT on 1st Sep
"Do you mind if she sits this one out? She's just dead."

maryyugo said @ 8:34pm GMT on 1st Sep
"You don't think I enjoyed what we did this evening, do you? What I did tonight was for King and country! You don't think it gave me any pleasure, do you?"

KingPellinore said @ 1:21am GMT on 2nd Sep
"That's quite a nice little nothing you're almost wearing. I approve. "

maryyugo said @ 7:00am GMT on 2nd Sep
"I've got a little itch, down there. Would you mind?"

maryyugo said @ 6:38am GMT on 3rd Sep
"So you're off duty?"

(Goldfinger)

KingPellinore said @ 7:28pm GMT on 6th Sep
Is that julep tart enough for you?

maryyugo said @ 4:22pm GMT on 1st Sep
"He had students hold hands in a semicircle, with students at either end of the chain holding an end of an electrical cord plugged into an ordinary household outlet, causing the current to flow through the students. The lawsuit alleges this "reckless" act on the teacher’s part led DuBois to believe the transmission of an electrical current through a person by this activity caused only a tingling sensation."

Hey, I'm all for reality teaching. Why bother with circuit diagrams, equations and symbols when you can just connect a few kids together and plug them into THE FUCKING WALL SOCKET. That morons deserves a LONG JAIL TERM.

Chop-Logik said @ 5:00pm GMT on 1st Sep [Score:1 Funny]
So dumb he pluralized!

Sean said @ 4:51pm GMT on 3rd Sep
This is actually a pretty common way to demonstrate resistance as a concept, AFAIK. I did it in college, I know lots of others who have.

The point of the thing is everybody knows it hurts like heck to get a shock. But chain a bunch of people together, and the resistance increases, so it doesn't hurt.

bmw said @ 4:23pm GMT on 1st Sep
How does this kind of stuff keep happening? Wait.. I know the answer, darwin theory.

Peco Sancherez said @ 4:25pm GMT on 1st Sep
I'm shocked at this kids stupidity

mwoody said @ 4:29pm GMT on 1st Sep [Score:1 Insightful]
Having read the article, nothing in this story is... some word that means "schocking" but doesn't make that sentence a horrible pun.

He had students hold hands in a semicircle, with students at either end of the chain holding an end of an electrical cord plugged into an ordinary household outlet, causing the current to flow through the students. The lawsuit alleges this "reckless" act on the teacher’s part led DuBois to believe the transmission of an electrical current through a person by this activity caused only a tingling sensation.

Kelley also told the students the classroom was fitted with protected circuits at the workstations to prevent harmful or fatal shocks, the lawsuit says.

Kelley not only knew what the students were doing, but according to the lawsuit, may have played a part in the dare that resulted in DuBois’ injuries. The lawsuit claims "One student heard Mr. Kelley state that Kyle should try it with his nipples and that he, Mr. Kelley, would give him a Mountain Dew if he did so."

It sounds like he'd gone out of his way to teach the kids not to be afraid of electricity in general and house current in particular, without doing due diligence (according to these accusations, at least - note that neither the school nor the teacher issued comment) to retain their respect for the dangers of electrocution. I'd need more information to make an informed decision (like, did the student simply ignore the safety lessons, or was safety never taught at all), but at this point, I don't see anything wrong with holding a teacher culpable when a student eventually believed a lesson.

maryyugo said @ 4:36pm GMT on 1st Sep
Right.

He also lead them to believe that the ground fault interrupters (GFI) in the building would protect them. But while those protect against a circuit to GROUND, they of course don't prevent current flow between the hot wire and the ground wire because that's where normal load is delivered.

See how GFI's work.

maryyugo said @ 4:38pm GMT on 1st Sep
... uh not sure about the terminology especially outside the US-- the GFI protects against a fault conducting current between "hot" and "neutral" -- an "abnormal diversion of current". Hope that's clearer.

donnie said @ 9:49pm GMT on 1st Sep [Score:1 Informative]
Scrambled terminology...

Current from hot to ground causes the GFI to trip.

Current from hot to neutral is normal.

Put another way, current which comes out of the hot but doesn't return to the neutral causes a fault.

eIfish said @ 9:51pm GMT on 1st Sep [Score:1 Informative]
A functioning appliance conducts 'current between "hot" and "neutral"'.

A GFI/RCD measures the current going out the live pin, and the current coming back in the neutral pin*, and if a significant number of electrons have gone AWOL, it trips. The device that protects against an abnormal amount of current between live and neutral is called a fuse.

RCDs react faster, and to less current, than fuses, and are a very good idea for any kind of device that might damage its own lead (irons, lawnmowers), or be exposed to water (most bathroom sockets have RCDs built in nowadays). But you still need a fuse as well, because if the device shorts live to neutral, a large (but balanced) amount of current will flow, turning it into an electric heater, burning down the house, but not tripping the RCD.

* Oh and we all know mains voltage is AC, so it should be pointed out that it also measures current out the neutral pin vs current in the live pin.

maryyugo said @ 10:38pm GMT on 1st Sep
Thanks.

soulecho said @ 10:50pm GMT on 1st Sep
Voltage isn't what kills. Amperage is what kills. And under the right conditions, as little as 0.015 amperes is enough to stop the heart.

maryyugo said @ 11:22pm GMT on 1st Sep
uh... Ohm! Ohm!

soulecho said @ 11:23am GMT on 2nd Sep [Score:1 Insightful]
Watt?

maryyugo said @ 8:37pm GMT on 5th Sep
Ohm had a law. Remember?

eIfish said @ 8:10pm GMT on 2nd Sep [Score:1 Informative]
If you were right, car batteries would be lethal. The man with awesome hair knows more than you.

And if tiny currents stopped the heart with any kind of regularity, defibrillators wouldn't need to deliver hundreds of joules at hundreds of volts.

Sean said @ 4:54pm GMT on 3rd Sep
They can be lethal, if the current gets past the resistance i.e. if you happen to have cuts on your fingertips and touch the terminals.

snowfox said @ 7:05pm GMT on 3rd Sep
Mythbusters gave the figure 6mA across the heart (so it would take more current than that to overcome resistance and deliver the lethal shock). At this point you're spasmodic in such a way that would cause asphyxiation or heart failure, and have no muscle control to break contact.

eIfish said @ 8:22pm GMT on 3rd Sep
Please, please tell me they got the Junior Mythbusters to test this...

Anti-fuites said @ 10:01pm GMT on 1st Sep
startling?

blibblob said @ 7:06am GMT on 2nd Sep
Done properly that can be a very enlightening lesson. Probably not to most high school kids though. If any of that is true then he really is guilty of gross negligence and a severe lack of understanding in regards to electricity. If any of it is an exaggeration, the kid deserves his brain damage and they should be counter-sued for a frivolous lawsuit. What the kid did was analogous to sticking a fork in the damn socket. If the teacher taught at all the science behind electricity and why, say, a Faraday cage works, it's not his fault if he has a student too stupid to learn the facts.

cb361 said @ 4:37pm GMT on 1st Sep
On a stormy night a wizened gypsy fortune teller predicted that I will die by electrocution. Well, not really, but it's probably a canny bet because I've managed to plug myself into the mains twice. And we're talking European 240v, not your pussy American 100v. My shoulder's never been quite the same after the second time.

lilmookieesquire said @ 4:43pm GMT on 1st Sep

I might have just saved your life.

maryyugo said @ 4:46pm GMT on 1st Sep
That's funny. When I was very young, my mother visited a fortune teller who told her I'd die by either electrocution or in an airplane crash. As it happens, I love both circuitry and planes. The psychic may turn out to have been right.

ralfmaximus said @ 4:58pm GMT on 1st Sep [Score:1 Funny]
"Hello, and welcome aboard from the cockpit! I'll be your pilot for this flight, and-- well... did I say 'pilot'? Really I'm an electrician, but I've always wanted to fly a 747 and darnit, don't you wish cockpit security was better these days?

"Anyhoo, shall we see what this baby can do?"

swiggy said @ 4:59pm GMT on 1st Sep
Don't worry, The psychic wasn't even close. I'll be taking a train, and my chainsaw is gas powered.

housewares said @ 11:03pm GMT on 3rd Sep
Flamebait... It's officially 120 in U.S. and CA, and 127 in los E.U.M. Vietnam sadly is moving on to 220 now

devilsad said @ 9:11pm GMT on 1st Sep
I have a challenge for you all. Think of one act of self-inflicted stupidity that the victim (or their family) could NOT try to blame someone else for.

I've come up with nothing.

maryyugo said @ 9:29pm GMT on 1st Sep
Well, look, it's also about the environment. If this guy did it at home alone or with peers, it's one thing. In school, in a class, under close supervision by the instructor, it's quite another.

bruceski said @ 9:43pm GMT on 1st Sep
Seeing how close one could get their face to a train without being hit.

maryyugo said @ 10:43pm GMT on 1st Sep
Interesting contrast between a well known and understood risk made small but scary and the train story: in a movie, was it Top Gun? or an older one?, a carrier based fighter pilot tries to get his nerve back after some incident by putting his head near the below deck end of an aircraft launching catapult. A huge mass of metal comes at him at a hundred miles an hour but it always stops at a very specific point because there is a huge chunk of stationary steel there to stop it. That's a PREDICTABLE situation which will almost always be safe even though it seems scary. You only have to be careful you know where you are with respect to the stop point which isn't hard, and you may get frightened but you will be safe.

How the hell does a kid know just how close to a fucking train they can get? I'm just curious what you thought you were doing and how you thought about the risk?

cb361 said @ 10:57pm GMT on 1st Sep
You move your face closer and closer to the train until you get hit by it. Then you move back a small distance.

maryyugo said @ 10:46pm GMT on 1st Sep
I ran down a steep hill into a street without looking carefully to both sides and came with a few inches of being wiped out by a fast moving car that escaped my peripheral vision somehow (or maybe was behind something). Another similar time was during a 10K and concentrating on the running I failed to notice that there was a car on the course at a crossing and that it was moving. Finally, trying self-hypnosis in the rain on a misty beach, I ran as fast as I could with my eyes closed and put my right leg into a foot deep hole in the sand. Ouch. Youth!

ComposerNate said @ 12:05am GMT on 2nd Sep
Throwing out your back while trying to suck your own dick.

maryyugo said @ 7:02am GMT on 2nd Sep
Video?

snowfox said @ 7:09pm GMT on 3rd Sep
If you left a ladder out, your kid climbed it, and jumped off the roof, I don't think you could sue the ladder company. Now if he fell off the ladder on the way up, or slipped and fell from the roof...

SnappyNipples said @ 1:15am GMT on 3rd Sep [Score:1 Interesting]