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Wednesday, 2 September 2009
quote [ I should've stayed on the farm... should've listened to my old man. ]
Everyone could feel it. Something terrible had happened during the night. Something was missing, as if an entire colour had suddenly disappeared from the world.
[mafia game] [by brat#3@1:38amGMT] [+5 Good] It didnt take long for the Delegates to work out what it was. Poor Woggle-Bug, the last bastion of hope for Oz, was no more. Where his cabin once stood there was again a sucking pocket of Nothing, but it appears the Nothing was not the only hunter out for Ozite prey that night. Perhaps with his heightened perception the Woggle-Bug had managed to pull himself away from the Nothing at the pivotal moment, at least, for the most part. A slippery, slithery trail led from what had been the cabin out towards the discussion area. A bit further on there lay the still figure of the Woggle-Bug- well, half a figure, the Nothing had claimed his lower portions- victim to brutal wounds that left no doubt that the Infiltrators had determined he could never go home again. Not that there was a home to go to anymore. Oz had ceased to be. Even now, across the Human World, those who read the stories of Oz began to find them lacklustre and uninspired, limp and tepid accounts of a World that now seemed dull and boring. With faces drawn and mournful, the Delegates sat down to begin their day. But who was being sincere, and who was hiding terrible secrets? The Narnian Delegation Hpew - Sir Tumnus (Snr Ambassador) verycleanteeth - H.R.H Jadis of the House of Charn cb361 - Mr. Beaver eightysix Mrs. Beaver archangel_2 - Reepicheep The Fantastica Delegation Zelgius - Engywook Stension - Grograman The Neverland Delegation juju - Princess Tiger Lily Hito - Mr. Smee The Wonderland Delegation theolypse - The Caterpillar (Snr Ambassador) rash1 - The Mock Turtle The Labyrinth Delegation Bodnoirbabe - Dist. Leader of the Fireys The Affiliated States Delegation AKA the Junior Worlds Fwee - Eeyore, Ambassador for the 100 Acre Wood happiest_sadist - Wild Thing, Ambassador for Where They Are v21 Puff the Magic Dragon, Ambassador for Honalee Dead: cool_drool - Representative of the Lollipop Guild, Oz TOWN Lynch Day One spite48 - The White Rabbit, Wonderland TOWN Murdered Night One KingPellinore - Tootles, Neverland TOWN Non-existed, Night One RecnaMoruen - TikTok, Oz TOWN Modkilled, Day Two (Inactivity) Stratafyre - Tinkerbell AKA Ginny Weasley, INFILTRATOR Lynch Day Two theCooler - Nick Chopper, Oz TOWN Murdered Night Two Misanthrope - The Little Prince, The Affiliated States TOWN Non-existed, Night Two dead_bob - The Duchess, Wonderland TOWN Lynch Day Three Todomanna - Hoggle, Labyrinth TOWN Non-existed, Night Three Balzac - Pyornkrachzark, Fantastica TOWN Nothing-assisted Suicide, Night Three badgerbaiter - Falkor, Fantastica TOWN Modkilled, Day Four (Inactivity) shiney things - Mermaid, Neverland TOWN Removal Requested, Day Four beerboy - William the Worm, Labyrinth TOWN Lynch Day Four foobar - The Junk Lady, Labyrinth TOWN Lynch Day Four lilmookieesquire - Hynreck AKA Edward Cullen, INFILTRATOR - Lynch Day Four Silent - Jack Pumpkinhead AKA Lord Azrael, INFILTRATOR Non-existed, Night Four Caffeine - The Dormouse, Wonderland TOWN Murdered Night Four Narrenschiff - Sir Didymus AKA Harry Potter, INFILTRATOR Lynch Day Five shiftace H.M Woggle-Bug, TE Oz TOWN Murdered/Non-existed Night Five THE ARBITER FOR TODAY IS CB361 PROLOGUE: http://www.sensibleerection.com/entry.php/77111 DAY ONE: http://www.sensibleerection.com/entry.php/77132 DAY TWO: http://www.sensibleerection.com/entry.php/77190 DAY THREE: http://www.sensibleerection.com/entry.php/77255 DAY FOUR: http://www.sensibleerection.com/entry.php/77309 DAY FIVE: http://www.sensibleerection.com/entry.php/77372 |
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brat#3
said @ 1:39am GMT on 2nd Sep
[Score:1 Underrated]
Vote here please: |
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brat#3
said @ 1:40am GMT on 2nd Sep
Chapter six, yadda yadda.. |
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theolypse
said @ 2:01am GMT on 2nd Sep
I play for the psychology, not the scenario design. For the past three days, scenario design has been all anyone will talk about. Let's get this out of the way. Theolypse isn't an Infiltrator. |
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HPew
said @ 2:15am GMT on 2nd Sep
Is that really the very best way you can start a day? |
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v21
said @ 3:09am GMT on 2nd Sep
Alright, I can buy that. theolypse. See below for An Analysis. |
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happiest_sadist
said @ 3:21am GMT on 2nd Sep
theolypse |
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Hito
said @ 4:24am GMT on 2nd Sep
If theolypse wants to vote himself lynched, who are we to stop him? And if he isn't an infiltrator, it will tie together a few more loose ends that will wrap the noose around the scourge wizards and their nothing associate. |
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Hito
said @ 11:56pm GMT on 3rd Sep
Might as well... Hpew |
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HPew
said @ 2:09pm GMT on 2nd Sep
theolypse You want it? You got it. |
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verycleanteeth
said @ 3:21pm GMT on 2nd Sep
theolypse in the astronomy tower with the magic wand. |
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Zelgius
said @ 5:56pm GMT on 2nd Sep
I'm not convinced either way about theolypse, but I do find HPew to be rather suspicious. |
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archangel_2
said @ 2:49am GMT on 3rd Sep
I know I said I'd vote for theolypse if Narrenschiff was mafia (as it indicates that the one mafia per delegation might be true), but I REALLY think theolypse is innocent. So I'm voting HPew instead. |
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HPew
said @ 12:13pm GMT on 3rd Sep
It is funny how a number of people are stating I have 'forced' the town into trying my theory. Just by being vocal! To test my theory while offering a constant subtext of if-you're-wrong-you're-dead-tomorrow is bullshit. Theory not fact, if theo/rash are not mafia then my theorising was wrong--it accurately reflected the situation to date, but then it was wrong. I am only me and you are fifteen yous, if you are unhappy with my theory it would be very, very easy to ignore it and do something else. |
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Fwee
said @ 11:04am GMT on 3rd Sep
v21 I know it's always suspicious to vote for the guy behind the bandwagon, but assuming there is one mafia per delegation, I'm inclined to think that v21 is it. |
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Stension
said @ 1:10pm GMT on 3rd Sep
I'm still inclined to vote for a Narnian right now. HPew has the most votes with that criteria. Hpew |
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Bodnoirbabe
said @ 5:18pm GMT on 3rd Sep
I don't feel one way or another about Theolypse, but Hpew doesn't sit right with me. I wouldn't be opposed to a double lynch of these two since a lot of people are so certain about both. |
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cb361
said @ 9:46pm GMT on 3rd Sep
theolypse because (a) there are two many voters for this bandwagon to be an infiltrator scheme, (b) to prevent any last-minute double-vote shenanigans - I won't be using my veto, and (c) if theo is innocent, we'll at least be able to take out rash, who will be an infiltrator if current suggestions about one-infiltrator-per-delegation are accurate. And if they're not accurate, well, we need to know that sooner rather than later. |
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eightysix
said @ 10:48pm GMT on 3rd Sep
I'll go with Theolypse |
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juju
said @ 12:43am GMT on 4th Sep
HPew I haven't gotten far enough into my list to look into theo, but there's not much to put HPew on a trusted list for me, and keeping this vote this close could lead to interesting things. |
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Stension
said @ 2:17am GMT on 2nd Sep
15 left and it's day 6. With 4 infis already killed, there can't be that many of em left. I still support looking at the oddly intact Narnia delegation for clues. |
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v21
said @ 2:30am GMT on 2nd Sep
You're missing a "2" in Chapter 5. |
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verycleanteeth
said @ 2:31am GMT on 2nd Sep
thumb is me. |
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grandpa ramo
said @ 3:01am GMT on 2nd Sep
nice dress |
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verycleanteeth
said @ 3:19pm GMT on 2nd Sep
you stalkin' me son? Check your PMs. |
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v21
said @ 3:08am GMT on 2nd Sep
Alright: the case for theolypse. I haven't been on him so far because vouching for rash1 seemed a crazy stunt to pull as mafia. But further thinking has shown it's not suicidal, something theo confirmed : "On the other hand, this just leaves me not-specifically-trusted, rather than less-trusted, right" And it's the kind of crazy double-thinking he's shown here with his self-voting. And the same as the mafia have played throughout. lilmookiesquire pulled his crazy stunt, and based on theos reactions predicted he was innocent: "Theolypse- Voted for me and switched. He's an old hand, and a smart mafia player. I think he's helping me stir the pot here. I'd assume he is likely a townie, and one we will need for the long game. Which was something I did not think was entirely warranted. Based on who lilmookie turned out to be ... well, if lilmookie thought, as he seemed to at that point that he would get away with his weird gambit, he's hardly going to finger theo as a candidate, is he? Day 2: "Bodnoirbabe had the most incentive to want Stratafyre discredited. As the person who interacted most with spite48 yesterday, Stratafyre would be the easiest person to shift attention to after the rabbit's death. He reversed his vote when it was clear strat was for it, though. And reversed without a surfeit of explanation (which could otherwise explain the change of course). Oh, and he seems to have struck up an instant suspicion against lilmookie: from the first day, he was casting votes and making comments against him without reasoning. When, on Day 3, lilmookie seemed to be acquiring some votes, he changed his mind. If theo did have suspicions against lilmookie from the start, why not more detailed analysis or a sustained vote. Or even a vote on Day 4, when he was in trouble. Basically: I suspect this animosity was play-acted. It does not do to associate too freely with your co-infiltrators in public, but it does not do to give too many reasons for others to kill 'em. Theolypse, I suspect you will respond in depth: I may be napping, and so not immediately present to provide the cut-and-thrust of debate. |
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theolypse
said @ 3:27am GMT on 2nd Sep
1) When I am trying to not associate with people, I simply do not associate with people. It would be far safer to -not- fight with your fellows, as one of a group of spies. 2) Strat was fingered by a one-use investigation. Of course I switched to him. Whassamattawichu? 3) Mookie is pretty transparent when he's up to no good. Which is why I identified him as such D3. That I totally forgot about that by D4 is why these long days vex me. I don't have the sustained attention for them. D1/2 wasn't even remotely like casting aspersions. That was joking. Are you familiar with the "no John you are the demons" line? Because that's what you saw, there. I do hope that people will note, when you are proven absurdly wrong and Wonderland lost, just how spurious your reasoning is. |
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v21
said @ 5:04pm GMT on 2nd Sep
1) That's easy to say now, isn't it? 2) Yeah, true enough. The point still stands that you were on BNB first, though, and only switched when Strat was doomed. That was the more significant part anyway, not the length of your reasoning for the switch. 3) In a first draft of my comment I even used the word "jokingly". Um, but I didn't get the reference, though I did know the source material. 4) Just to remind everyone, I threw out a bunch of allegations not addressed in your reply. I am going to allege that you didn't respond because you have no good response. I think you didn't respond because you have no good response. See, look there, I made a promise and I carried it out. And if you are innocent: please divulge your suspicions, so we can benefit a little from your wisdom when you are dead and trusted. After all: you suspected mookie, and turned out to be right, or would have been if you had only remembered. I guess this is the core fact that makes me suspicious: You're clearly a good and perceptive player, but you haven't offered the town much useful analysis or accusations. |
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theolypse
said @ 7:27pm GMT on 2nd Sep
The town hasn't offered me much. Because they've been discussing scenario design, and I don't pay any more attention to that than I have to. I like watching people, and people have not been the real topics of conversation. Analysis of voting and killing has almost universally been post hoc, this game. Fwee, to pick a name at random, has not contributed any more meaningfully to the discussion than I have, but I am now on the block because of some nonsense about distributions, instead of particularly more suspicious behavior. It frustrates me more than I should allow it to, and that's why I'm not defending myself today. I should probably take a break from mafia games for a while. You will believe, when I am dead, that I have been trying desperately to find the Infiltrators. Hell, I called more than just mookie. But this hasn't turned out to be the kind of game, in practice, that I'm aces at. You'll need to look in another castle for your princess. Incidentally, mookie knew that shiftace and I weren't on his team, and announced as much, probably in a bid to look less shady himself, should we die before he did. I'd follow his trail to the other two he named, just in case. |
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HPew
said @ 8:31pm GMT on 2nd Sep
But mookie also cast suspicion on Stratafyre, who was mafia. And, I'd missed this until now, said in the same post: "For the mafia to have one of theirs as a trusted town member seems like a VERY convent strategy for us." <- Us!!! Not very subtle at all, you would hardly need careful persykologie and analysis to uncover him. |
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Fwee
said @ 11:07am GMT on 3rd Sep
Random my ass. (Hee Haw) Its because my name is easy to say! |
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v21
said @ 2:09pm GMT on 3rd Sep
I'm not voting for you because of distributions. I'm voting for you because you seemed suspicious when I fine-combed through your posts. I did that because you were asking for it, and because I was pondering about you since the thing with rash1. I haven't done that for Fwee because, well, I haven't really noticed Fwee. And: if you are innocent, then why are you being a dick and wasting a lynch on your suicide? Why not just ask to be modkilled? And: thank you for the possibly-helpful analysis. |
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shiftace
said @ 5:08am GMT on 2nd Sep
:( |
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junk lady's ghost
said @ 6:08am GMT on 2nd Sep
OoOOoOoOOOoOoOOOO I don't wanna be dead :( OoOoOoOOOOoOoO |
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HPew
said @ 2:08pm GMT on 2nd Sep
Do we have an exorcist to hand? |
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Hito
said @ 11:46pm GMT on 2nd Sep
The hand is busy fapping at the moment. Check back in an hour. And bring wet naps. |
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cb361
said @ 3:31pm GMT on 2nd Sep
Do we have any evidence to indicate that one of the aims of the infiltrators is to entirely destroy individual worlds? The write-up makes it sound as though that might be the case. |
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eightysix
said @ 3:54pm GMT on 2nd Sep
There was no murder last night too, simply a non-existing. |
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eightysix
said @ 3:55pm GMT on 2nd Sep
Well, not simply. |
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cb361
said @ 4:32pm GMT on 2nd Sep
It appears that both sides decided to hit shiftace. |
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eightysix
said @ 6:09pm GMT on 2nd Sep
Ah I see that now. |
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verycleanteeth
said @ 3:54pm GMT on 2nd Sep
How could that be the case when they themselves belong to those worlds? |
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cb361
said @ 4:31pm GMT on 2nd Sep
If they're infiltrators, then they're not really of their worlds. Or being the last surviving member of a delegation at the end of the game might be equally good. Or perhaps it's the Nothing's objective. Maybe the death of Oz is just flavour text, but Shiftace was the last ozite, and the Infiltrators and the Nothing both decided to hit him at the same time, last night. It makes me wonder if they had some objective greater than just eliminating a (mostly) confirmed townie. |
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v21
said @ 4:49pm GMT on 2nd Sep
Did the death of the other Ozites not mean that poor Woggle-Bug would have had exclusive access to the Ruby Slippers? I can understand why a Mafia or a Nothing would like to stop the town from having access to them. Depends, of course, on whether the slippers were still extant. |
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cb361
said @ 5:02pm GMT on 2nd Sep
Shiftace and Silent were the only surviving Ozites for a couple of days, so it's reasonable to guess that Silent got the slippers at least once and had already destroyed them. |
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v21
said @ 5:05pm GMT on 2nd Sep
And even if that wasn't true, it'd still be a reasonable guess for the Nothing. |
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Hito
said @ 11:51pm GMT on 2nd Sep
If all infiltrators were killed in a world before the infiltrator destroyed the item, then that world is guaranteed to have an item. It makes good sense for the mob to take out any world without an infiltrator first so that there are fewer weapons against them guaranteed to stay in play. |
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theolypse
said @ 1:12am GMT on 4th Sep
I could jump in now and kill HPew. But you guys are going to have to do it for me. |
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HPew
said @ 3:15pm GMT on 4th Sep
HA-HA-HA! I rool! Die Nothing!! |
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Hito
said @ 10:15pm GMT on 4th Sep
Bet your bottom dollar That tomorrow There'll be sun! |
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Aidentas
said @ 1:14am GMT on 4th Sep
TIME. |
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archangel_2
said @ 3:08am GMT on 4th Sep
is on my side. yes it is! |
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Hito
said @ 3:40am GMT on 4th Sep
...the Stones sing "Hey, you, get off of my cloud" and the Scottish shepherd yells, Hey, McCloud, get off of my ewe!" |
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Narrenschiff
said @ 9:54pm GMT on 4th Sep
keeps flowing like a river? |
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cb361
said @ 10:50pm GMT on 4th Sep
I bet you gonna find some people who live |
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brat#3
said @ 10:38pm GMT on 4th Sep
keeps on slipping, slipping, slipping.. into the future. |
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cb361
said @ 10:49pm GMT on 4th Sep
baby: it is murder. |
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theolypse
said @ 11:14pm GMT on 4th Sep
is like a bullet from behind. |
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cb361
said @ 11:20pm GMT on 4th Sep
these hazel eyes |
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theolypse
said @ 11:21pm GMT on 4th Sep
SHE TOOK A DUMP ON THE CORPSE OF "BEHIND BLUE EYES"? |
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brat#3
said @ 3:46am GMT on 4th Sep
*yawn* alright, I'm awake. Now what have I.. ok. I'll get right on it. |
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brat#3
said @ 4:25am GMT on 4th Sep
[Score:3 Informative]
It took hardly any time at all for the day to get underway. The Caterpillar was first to speak, declaring that "proceeding wrongly in order to be right, I find myself forced to cast a vote for my own person." The crowd was silent for a brief moment, before the Arbiter sighed and tabled the motion. "Well, I'm not sure that's the best idea, but very well. Name?" The Caterpillar seemed to hiss, or something around him did, probably that hookah come to think of it. "...Caterpillar." "Yes, yes," chittered Mr. Beaver. "But first name, please? For the records, you understand. Everyone has a first name, you know. Mine's Archibald. And yours is?" The hissing increased. The Caterpillar's voice was sounding a little far-off. "...it's a Neverland thing, we don't really do first names." "Yes we do!" interjected the Mock Turtle, voice thick with hurt. "You should know that! Mine's Alan. *sniff* I can't believe you don't remember, that's just.. *sob*" The crowd had begun to take more serious notice of the Caterpillar. The closer they looked, the more it appeared that he had lost some of his original colour, was looking a little- grey, and kind of... threadbare.. anxious murmurs began to circulate amongst the Delegates. Undeterred, Mr Beaver pushed on regardless. "Well, see here, there's such a thing as protocol, you know. I don't care for it myself, but there you have it, must record a name. Ah well. I suppose if you don't have one to supply we may as well give you one, eh? Expedience is bliss, as the saying goes. Alright, how does everyone feel about Derek? Derek Caterpillar?" Groans from the Delegates. More hissing, much louder, from around the Caterpillar. Things were swirling in the air around him. It was a little disconcerting. "How about Gerrard? No? Steve? Bryan? Oh, alright then, open to the floor." "Phil!" "Hubert!" "Llellwyn!" ... "What? Always liked LLellwyn... have a grandfather with that name, perfectly respectable." Tumnus piped up. "How about Carlyle?" The name was tried out, rolled around the mouth like a toffee. Gradually little nods and shrugs replaced the screwed up noises, and Archibald took that as good enough for him. "Rightio, we hereby bequeath you Carlyle the Caterpillar, and now-" The hissing around Carlyle rose steadily into a thunderous roar. Suddenly the Caterpillar's body began to pull inward, seeming to shrink first from the edges then closer and closer towards the middle, imploding on- no, wait- eating itself until all that was left was a small speck of dust which fell with an audible *pop* onto the snow. The Delegates stepped forward gingerly to peer down at where the speck had fallen, but nobody could see anything. Just then, a roar from the Wild Thing alerted their attention. Where previously they had been able to notice those pockets of nothing that were closest to the discussion table, the cabins had reappeared as if by magic! Indeed, magic was strong in the air, as was the- oh, god, smell- It appeared things had been returned to their rightful places, including the previous inhabitants of those cabins. Not returned to life, however. The Delegates dispersed radiply downwind, leaving behind the tiny remnant of what had once been Carlyle. In the end, he had been a very hungry Caterpillar. Dead: Theolypse - The Caterpillar, AKA THE NOTHING |
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Bodnoirbabe
said @ 4:50am GMT on 4th Sep
I'm curious as to how Theolypse thought his voting gambit was going to turn out! |
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archangel_2
said @ 5:31am GMT on 4th Sep
Given that he said, in time for a last minute change, that he wasn't going to change his vote - I think he was just giving up. (He did it before in Sensible Abduction, so there is precedence for this kind of behavior from him...) |
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cb361
said @ 9:24am GMT on 4th Sep
An unexpected and agreeable development. Beneficial to the infiltrators as well though. |
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rash1
said @ 8:44pm GMT on 4th Sep
So based on this, it would appear that the assumption of one baddie per delegation is correct. |
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Bodnoirbabe
said @ 8:49pm GMT on 4th Sep
The assumption is that there is one MAFIA per group. This doesn't clear you, so don't get cocky. |
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cb361
said @ 9:32pm GMT on 4th Sep
If there wasn't an infiltrator in among the Wonderland delegation, the infiltrators themselves would know that, and presumably focus their kills on that delegation. So far the infiltrators have killed: 2 x Oz 2 x Wonderland Based on just on that, I would say that rash1 is less likely to be an infiltrator |