Sensible Erection | DC Madame Commits Suicide

Thursday, 1 May 2008

quote [ Palfrey was convicted April 15 by a federal jury of running a prostitution service that catered to members of Washington's political elite, including Sen. David Vitter, a Louisiana Republican. ]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deborah_Jeane_Palfrey

One of her employees offed herself last January. Conspiracy theories, anyone?

Unrelated WTF bonus: Indian baby-dropping ritual
http://www.reuters.com/news/video?videoId=81490
Bombs away!

[politics] [by sanepride@3:18amGMT] [+10 Informative]

Comments

TheLittlestNihilist said @ 3:21am GMT on 1st May
Hos Down Pimps Up

Whatever the hell that means. Just popped in my head and wouldn't get out till I posted it. Kinda like a song that bugs you till you sing it out loud.

mwoody said @ 3:53am GMT on 1st May
And now it's stuck in my head. And some bitch just called me saying "7 days..."

teknokracy said @ 3:36am GMT on 1st May [Score:-3 WTF]
Conspiracy?

If you're a hooker, you probably have some deep emotional issues to begin with.

KingPellinore said @ 4:58am GMT on 1st May
Dude, seriously? Way to stereotype there, buddy.

donnie said @ 5:01am GMT on 1st May [Score:3 Insightful]
Yeah, and if you're in any position to embarrass extremely powerful politicians and you "commit suicide", it means you probably had "help"...

maryyugo said @ 12:31am GMT on 2nd May
no it doesn't. maybe "possibly had help", maybe "more likely than a usual suicide to have help" but not "*probably* had help." that's an empty conspiracy theory.

the circumstance of this suicide does mean that the investigators should use more care in evaluating the autopsy and crime scene, it says nothing whatever about the cause of death. you're just jumping to concussions as usual.

at least one interviewer said, ex post factor, that she was not going to prison and would rather kill herself. she also implied the same during an abc news interview several months ago.

apparently palfrey had a previous prison term which resulted in serious physical impairments ... it was not something she wanted to repeat.

here is what reported dan moldea has to say.

maryyugo said @ 12:23am GMT on 2nd May [Score:-4]
of course not... it's the career choice most parents would encourage for their daughters. you too, right?

Bob LLama said @ 3:41am GMT on 1st May
she shot herself from across the room
she shot herself with a high-powered sniper rifle
she poisoned herself with Polonium
she hurled herself into the sun
she natural caused herself to death
she gave herself a heart attack

TheLittlestNihilist said @ 4:17am GMT on 1st May
Plague.....Awl sudden like.....

lost said @ 4:36am GMT on 1st May
She fell down an elevator shaft....

....onto some bullets.

anger_die said @ 7:07am GMT on 1st May
...before dismembering herself, drowning herself in sulfuric acid, then trying to dump herself in some remote ravine. Apparently she succeeded.

baulsaak said @ 2:30am GMT on 2nd May
+1 Mystery Men

rosary said @ 6:28am GMT on 1st May
this is so four hours ago

kang said @ 3:51am GMT on 1st May
Grand Theft Auto V - Play as a Washington senator. Evade police. Kill hookers.

valen85 said @ 4:16am GMT on 1st May
lol steal elections

lost said @ 4:39am GMT on 1st May
bowl.

ring riot said @ 3:53am GMT on 1st May
Uh, yeah. Considering who was on her client list (sources say Cheney was one, and she'd already revealed the Pentagon "shock and awe" strategist) and the fact that an employee of the service, Brandy Britton, also "committed suicide" prior to going to trial to testify last year, and considering she'd recently threatened to reveal the names of all of her clients - sure.

She "committed suicide".

granitewitch said @ 3:54am GMT on 1st May
Yup, accidentally fell down an elevator shaft onto fourteen bullets...

lost said @ 4:39am GMT on 1st May
doh! I did not read far enough down before posting basically this same response...

ring riot said @ 3:59am GMT on 1st May [Score:1 Informative]
Some telling quotes from her:

"No I'm not planning to commit suicide. I'm planning on going into court and defending myself vigorously and exposing the government," she said.

"If taken into custody, my physical safety and most probably my very life would be jeopardized. Rape, beating, maiming, disfigurement and more than likely murder disguised in the form of just another jailhouse accident or suicide would await me."

"Make no mistake. They'll make it look like a suicide. It will be murder."

sensibleb said @ 4:02am GMT on 1st May
Source(s)?

KingPellinore said @ 4:47am GMT on 1st May
MP3 of Palfrey on Alex Jones's radio show saying she would not commit suicide.

maryyugo said @ 7:16am GMT on 1st May
and of course, we believe everything anyone says, especially on tv.

sanepride said @ 7:33am GMT on 1st May
It's radio! Everyone speaks the truth!
Oh yeah, except for that Orson Welles thing.

FifthSpango said @ 1:07am GMT on 2nd May
that Orson Welles thing

That's a band name right there.

BlutStein1984 said @ 3:59am GMT on 1st May
"Interesting, my earl grey has a hint of almond to it today...."

TheLittlestNihilist said @ 4:11am GMT on 1st May
Do we have enemies mayhaps?

maryyugo said @ 4:24am GMT on 1st May [Score:2 Insightful]
this is one conspiracy theory that wouldn't be hard to believe and i've heard life is pretty cheap to end in the district of columbia. but the idea that chaney would have used her services is pretty unlikely -- his ticker couldn't stand the extra work and i can imagine him thinking of his legacy if he was found dead right after a "massage". well... who knows? she certainly didn't seem suicidal in interviews. i hope the investigators do their job.

ring riot said @ 4:47am GMT on 1st May
Agreed.

However, as ABC noted, the people in her "black book" are White House and Pentagon officials, corporate CEOs, military officers, lobbyists, officials of the International Monetary Fund, the World Bank and NASA.

There won't be any murder investigation. It will be called a suicide, and that will be that. With the risk of big names like that being taken down, well...people like that don't take risks.

They make a phone call.

maryyugo said @ 5:11am GMT on 1st May
"There won't be any murder investigation."
don't bet your last brain cell on it.

BlutStein1984 said @ 5:20am GMT on 1st May
I won't rule out an investigation but I can tell you now that they won't find anything.

maryyugo said @ 5:36am GMT on 1st May
sure, because, giving you the benefit of the doubt, you're psychic

anger_die said @ 7:13am GMT on 1st May
I think what people are trying to say is, that findings of any investigation would be untrustworthy due to the people involved in what she was taken down for.

But really, if there's any evidence of murder, you've got her entire black book and any spouses and girlfriends/boyfriends as suspects.

azbubz said @ 9:38pm GMT on 1st May
Because her black is gospel and we can believe that everyone in it was actually a customer.

ring riot said @ 4:49am GMT on 1st May
Oh, as far as Cheney is concerned - she actually named him as being a client, and said when she reveals the list, everyone would know.

I guess that won't be happening now, of course.

maryyugo said @ 5:36am GMT on 1st May
reference for chaney as a client? that would be interesting. i'd hate to have his viagra bill.

maryyugo said @ 4:27am GMT on 1st May
oh-- in case anyone missed the link in the extended (i think it should've been a separate post), be sure to see it. people do strange things with their infants, that's for sure. oh, but deliberately dropping young babies 50 feet into an improvised net is "good luck" according to the local superstitions. i suppose it's a good test to rule out serious heart defects.

i was toying with posting it but then, it would have been labelled racist, right?

lost said @ 4:41am GMT on 1st May [Score:1 Insightful]
yep!

radioelectric said @ 5:54am GMT on 1st May
Why not? It's probably no more dangerous than driving with your child in the car.

insanemonkey said @ 5:13pm GMT on 1st May
No.

Stratafyre said @ 4:49am GMT on 1st May
Really? No necrophilia jokes?

Well I'm just disappointed now.

Bob LLama said @ 4:50am GMT on 1st May
Bend over, I'll make a necrophilia joke.

zsander said @ 10:53am GMT on 1st May
Dick (Laurent) is Dead.

anger_die said @ 9:38am GMT on 1st May
But can I still buy a "massage" from her? I'm feeling a little stiff.

Excited Corpse said @ 5:01am GMT on 1st May [Score:1 Underrated]
wish I could give you a +100 for that baby dropping vid. it is both terrifying and totally cute.

maryyugo said @ 5:11am GMT on 1st May
sorry, how is child abuse cute?

mrcookieface said @ 6:39am GMT on 1st May
One society's perception of child abuse is another's ritual and vis versa. The world does not conform to your standards of propriety, and nor should it.

Child abuse implies that they are inflicting harm upon the kids, while reports offer no evidence of injury or death resulting from the ritual. Is it baffling to a Western perspective? Sure, but that doesn't mean they are somehow in the wrong.

Until you find evidence that these kids are being harmed in some manner, I suggest you rethink your ideas on what constitutes child abuse.

My girls (aged 15 months) would LOVE that. They are never so happy and gleeful as when they're being tossed in the air or being swung around the room. I'm sure were they aware of the concept of roller coasters (and capable of coherent speech) they'd be begging me every moment of the day to just let them live at Cedar Point.

maryyugo said @ 7:20am GMT on 1st May
ok, i get it. that nothing untoward is *claimed* from dropping an infant more than two stories into a fairly small dirty piece of canvas held by a bunch of guys where the children bounce willy nilly another 2-3 feet is perfect justification for approving the "ritual". i'm sure it's completely safe. hell, it's a good idea-- prepares them for the rest of their lives in that forsaken poverty and disease-ridden place.

and talking about a society and its perceptions and rituals, the girls have little good to look forward to in that society or most any observant or devout muslim surroundings.

yeah, i know. racist. put that in your pipe and smoke it.

sanepride said @ 7:38am GMT on 1st May
15 meters = more like 4 stories.
It's supposed to bring good luck - and you have to admit, if the little nippers survive unscathed, that's some pretty good luck right there.

sanepride said @ 8:17am GMT on 1st May [Score:2 Insightful]
Also...if at the tender age of 8 days I had been given the choice between a ritual 15 meter drop and a ritual circumcision I might have just chosen the first. Of course I wasn't given the choice.

buzhidao said @ 8:20am GMT on 1st May [Score:1 Insightful]
ah, yes. but strapping screaming newborn males into molded baby-shaped iodine-stained plastic pans and chopping off the foreskin is totally cool.
with topical anaesthetic he really doesnt feel a thing.

maryyugo said @ 10:17am GMT on 1st May
anesthetic? what are you, some sort of wusss? and newborn? why? do it when they are 13 and without their consent like they do in some "primitive" societies. that'll make an impression.

maryyugo said @ 10:16am GMT on 1st May
now that i think of it, this is really a beyond idiotic and dangerous thing to do to an infant. young children don't have good support for their head which is heavier in proportion to the body than in adults and their brain is quite succeptible to jarring. here's a bit about shaken baby syndrome.

some of the results of shaking up a baby can include: "...retinal hemorrhages, petechiae (small, pinpoint hemorrhages) on the body or face, multiple fractures of the long bones, and subdural hematomas."

also, intracranial bleeding and death along with the chance for "small" strokes which may not be evident but may result in all sorts of consequences, some mental and intellectual, others physical and affecting coordination, as the child grows up.

my suspicion: they want to dumb down the kids so they accept the imbecilic superstitions they are going to be taught a bit easier.

sanepride said @ 12:15pm GMT on 1st May [Score:3 Funny]
They drop their babies because they're brain-damaged from having been dropped as babies themselves. Been passed down through generations. It all fits.

Supreme_Coconut said @ 1:33am GMT on 2nd May
All these replies and no one has said anything about Mary's dislike for Brown people.

sanepride said @ 3:09am GMT on 2nd May
I dunno about that. She seems awfully concerned about the welfare of little brown babies being dropped from dizzying heights.
From what I've observed she likes Brown people just fine, just as long as they don't come to the US in large numbers.

maryyugo said @ 3:12am GMT on 2nd May
"she likes Brown people just fine, just as long as they don't come to the US in large numbers..." **illegally**

maryyugo said @ 5:39am GMT on 1st May
"Palfrey, 52, was found guilty last month of running an escort service that earned her at least $2 million. She had not yet been sentenced but media reports said could have faced up to 50 years in prison."

this is from a florida article... if true, it could account for a suicide-- 50 fucking years for pandering? what a travesty. we sure do have one fucked up society. more evidence for that. -- a 50+ year old mother of three, who escaped prison on a drug charge 30 years ago and has been a model citizen ever since is going to "finish" her sentence of 10 years. the legal system is populated with total idiots.

azbubz said @ 9:42pm GMT on 1st May
So, you are saying that if one does a crime, but has the where with all to evade going to prison and then lives a NORMAL life on the lam, they should not be punished for their original crime AND for escaping from prison?

And you are saying that the idiots are in the system?

Wow.

maryyugo said @ 4:07am GMT on 2nd May
of course i am *not* saying that. if she'd killed someone or embezzled a lot of money it would be different. she was charged and coped to with two counts of selling heroin. it was her boy friend who was the actual salesperson. she had been assured she would serve little or no time.

so it's doubtful she actually did the crime, she was not convicted of it, and she accepted a plea bargain for which she probably was duped. at least that's her side of it.

what i think should have happened would be for the whole thing to be carefully and compassionately reviewed by a suitable panel, probably locally where she lives. but instead, some vengeful uptight persecutor in the original jurisdiction wants her badly for who knows what reason? those people are nuts!

this woman does not have a ten year debt to society and is absolutely no risk of any sort to anyone. weighed against that is ripping her from a husband and children, and her friends and neighbors for very little acceptable reason.

get it now?

azbubz said @ 4:57am GMT on 2nd May
First, let me state that I think our drug laws are draconian at best, and that drug abuse is a public health issue, not a law enforcement issue.

That being said, she absolutely did the crime she was charged with as she admitted to it by accepting the plea bargain, and that itself shows she was "convicted." She would have had to of plead guilty to get the plea bargain and that would been recorded as a conviction. Whether or not she was duped into the plea bargain is a matter for a jury. But, the fact remains she was in the system, and was to be sentenced for her crime. She fled from that responsibility and should be held accountable for her actions.

To use your words, she DOES have up to a ten year DEBT TO SOCIETY as that could have been her original sentence. Just because she was living right and is a wonderful mother and wife doesn't mean shit. She never even started paying her debt. If you let her off because she escaped penalty, then you are sending a message that that is ok to attempt escape and evasion of penalties for any crime that you don't "agree" with, and if you can evade for a long enough time, then you are off the hook. We must be held accountable for our actions, or else what's the point of laws and their enforcement?

To paraphrase one of my favorite New Englanders, H. D. Thoreau, just because it's the law doesn't make it right. If you don't like it, change the law.

maryyugo said @ 5:40am GMT on 2nd May
i'm not a lawyer so i may have misstated her legal status. she does say she was duped into the plea and she also says it was her boy friend selling the heroin, not her. i also think the law should make sense with respect to the present situation *and* the past-- not the past alone. but then a lot of law simply does not make sense. never did. it's a "process".

JOECAM said @ 9:55am GMT on 1st May
List of Suicides by whistle blowers or those that knew things

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maryyugo said @ 10:17am GMT on 1st May
that's nice. retrospective selection is so impressive.

Tirade said @ 10:25am GMT on 1st May
Normally I'm the first one to call a conspiracy theory crap... but this is one I'd be more than willing to believe.

-_- said @ 12:57pm GMT on 1st May
I EAT YOUR MUFFIN ... I EAT IT UP!!!

warmseat said @ 2:21pm GMT on 1st May [Score:1 Insightful]
I just FUCKINg LOVE those people that, after someone dares to FUCKING QUESTION THE OFFICIAL VERSION OF ANY EVENT, say: 'OH, IF IT'S A CONSPIRACY, IF THERE'S PEOPLE INVOLVED, WHY DON'T THEY SPEAK UP? PEOPLE WOULD SPILL THE BEANS, PEOPLE WOULD TALK IF THEY KNEW ABOUT (insert most hated conspiracy here)!!!'

This is what happens when people talk, when they blow the whistle, when they try to blackmail the big guys. That's why conspiracies and crimes don't come to light.

Or she slipped on the soap bar in the tub. Clumsy people.

pshaw said @ 11:48pm GMT on 1st May
Don't you normally have your lawyer release a posthumous version of the list and an affadavit stating "I would never kill myself, I am of sound mental status" just in case of this happening?