Friday, 22 June 2007

Do Androids Surf on Sensible Erection? - Day 4

quote [ ...was then confirmed to be a mutant, as the telltale signs on the remainder of his frame would show. ]

Jeez!

As the Onan System Star's light spread across the town square, little patches of color appeared splattered on the stones of the ground. It was as if someone had perhaps held a CandyBall Game in the central plaza during the night. Indeed, the patches of color had a sticky sweet quality to them. They covered the whole of the gigantic plaza, and the townspeople who could stand to rouse themselves after a night of wild merrymaking made their way slowly to the center with care. Something red seemed to lie in the center of the town.

Upon closer inspection, the object was found to be the corpse of Rainbow Randolf, popular TV personality. Cans of Ultra Fizzola were strewn about him, with a can still left jammed into his mouth. Empty packets of Extra Strength Pop Rocks were scattered around his remains like confetti at the end of a parade. A dark red hole remained where his stomach once was. It was apparent that the androids had caused a small internal explosion by force feeding him his two favorite snacks. What a way to go.

A medical examination and a look through his personal items confirmed that the tumors all over his back were indeed from acute mutantism. Rainbow Randolf was a mutant. Not a good thing at all-- there wouldn't be much to watch on the TV on Onan anymore.

Curiously, he also had a tattoo on his left shoulder with of an insignia surrounded by the words "Awesome Club". Odd.
----
NakedTS and ogredp0ski, and owleyes are STILL ON NOTICE. POST MORE. kfine penisinface, you're off notice.

Hopefully, Sythe's remains will take care of the player list.

Hmmmmm....

PEOPLE PLAYING MAFIA IN CAFFEINE'S BAR SURROUND YOUR MESSAGES WITH TRIPLE ASTERIKS: ***

THX.

[games] [by Narrenschiff@5:22pmGMT] [+10 Good]

Comments

Narrenschiff said @ 5:24pm GMT on 22nd Jun [Score:3]
Post your votes as a reply to this comment. Please do not reply to any comment but your own. This day ends on SUNDAY NIGHT 9pm PST June 22nd.

Aidentas said @ 5:51pm GMT on 22nd Jun [Score:1 Funny]
I vote to lynch myself. Not because I don't want to play anymore (I do), but as a show of honor. I'm responsible for this mess we're in now, Awesome Club or no.

The most apologetic thing I can do now is offer my human head to the mercy of the masses. I am a citizen, yes. But I am a citizen who has endangered the colony.

Aidentas said @ 4:57pm GMT on 24th Jun
In light of new information I don't... We have a twinpr0n post?

*ahem*

I want to live. I vote to lynch Graham.

Tungston said @ 6:18pm GMT on 22nd Jun [Score:-4 Overrated]

Who the hell tried to flush their, mostly okra and barbie-doll head turds down the guest toilet??

Bob LLama said @ 7:55pm GMT on 22nd Jun [Score:-1 Overrated]
I vote to lynch whoever stole my box of matches.

Seriously. Lighter's out of butane, box of matches disappeared, I'm lighting my bong with a fucking birthday candle. That's just pathetic.

Narrenschiff said @ 8:00pm GMT on 22nd Jun [Score:1 Informative]
Pathetic awesome.

Bob LLama said @ 8:03pm GMT on 22nd Jun [Score:1 Funny]
Happy birthday to yoooooouuuuuuuuuu

*blubblubblubblubblubblubblubblubblubblubblubblub*
...

*koffkoffkoffkoff*

Happy birthdayyyyy to yoooouuuuuuu....

snowfox said @ 5:12am GMT on 23rd Jun
Go to walmart. Buy a pack of views. 8 lighters for like 1.63. It's beautiful. Sometimes they even survive the washing machine.

Context said @ 6:06am GMT on 23rd Jun
o.o

An 8 pack of lighters is like, 5 bucks here. The cheap ones. Honestly, I think they're Sin Taxed, although I'm not entirely certain. And we can't even get good weed to light with our overly-expensive lighters.

snowfox said @ 7:43am GMT on 23rd Jun
I get sticky, fluffy shwag for $30/.5oz.

Context said @ 8:41am GMT on 23rd Jun
I can get hard packed, slightly sticky, decent shwag for about $40/.5 oz. When there is nug, which is not often, it's usually about $50-$60 for 1/8. And there's no gourmet scene here, it's all schwag or kind, intermittently available.

And I thought the Midwest was supposed to have a low cost of living.

Bob LLama said @ 9:45am GMT on 23rd Jun
Fuck schwagg...

1/8 of "medical grade" is a bit pricey at $60, but god damned does it pack a punch and last a while.

Narrenschiff said @ 11:14am GMT on 23rd Jun
If you're medically licensed, it gets ridiculously cheap.

Context said @ 11:34am GMT on 23rd Jun
If only I could find it here. Kansas blows. We can't even get good beer, unless we go over to Missouri. Friggin' 3 point law.

sociology_boy said @ 5:46pm GMT on 23rd Jun
I buy in bulk! $280/oz for thc frosted nugz of pure delight!

graham said @ 9:43pm GMT on 23rd Jun
had some zombie weed last night...it was fuggin' great.

Narrenschiff said @ 8:58am GMT on 23rd Jun
Man, everything's cheaper down there!

snowfox said @ 10:27am GMT on 23rd Jun [Score:1 Interesting]
I vote to lynch -_-. First it was Sythe spreading cultist propaganda nonsense, now it's -_-, picking up right where a CONFIRMED ANDROID left off. There was no cult talk, no cult theories, until the androids started them. It's a trick. They want you to kill a townie advantage. Don't be fooled.

The awesome club is run by the rcg. He is a townie. His first night he found a mutant, Rainbow Randolph, who he used to investigate new members for the club. When he investigated Sythe, Sythe turned out to be an android. I was invited to be the club's mouth piece and help kill Sythe.

-_- is diverting the townies. He must be an android.

snowfox said @ 4:11pm GMT on 24th Jun
Change vote: bruceski

DefianceFalcon said @ 2:14pm GMT on 23rd Jun
Voting for -_-
I, for one, welcome our new awesome overlords.

Context said @ 2:32pm GMT on 23rd Jun
I vote to lynch -_-

I'm with snowfox, and I really hope she's trustworthy. Until further notice, snowfox, you have my support, but there is no need to invite me into the Awesome Club, as I'm just a vanilla townie, and won't be much use to you.

And -_-... I hope this doesn't mean that I'm kicked out of the game.

graham said @ 2:47pm GMT on 23rd Jun [Score:1 Interesting]
I vote lynch AaronCC for the same reasons as yesterday.

graham said @ 4:15pm GMT on 23rd Jun [Score:1 Informative]
Change lynch vote: HoboSpice

penisinface said @ 2:52pm GMT on 23rd Jun
anyone voting for -_- is not on the human side. noone has worked harder and been more right. I'm inclined to vote for snowfox right now. she seems to have turned against us.

Context said @ 4:30pm GMT on 23rd Jun
Show me some results that -_- has made.

penisinface said @ 4:45pm GMT on 24th Jun
I'm changing my vote to hobospice. I want his drug dealing ass dead.

fuck this cult shit. the only cult I'm in is STRAIGHT EDGE

SXE

bruceski said @ 3:31pm GMT on 23rd Jun
I vote to lynch snowfox I don't feel she can be trusted, same as Penis.

verycleanteeth said @ 4:08pm GMT on 23rd Jun
Unless someone gives me an idea of who to focus on, I'm not really sure what to make of all this 'Awesome Club' business, so I'll just go back to hunting robots for now.

Voting carrotboi because he was tops on the suspicious list on Day 2 before logistics sidetracked everyone.

-_- said @ 4:20pm GMT on 23rd Jun
I vote to LYNCH SNOWFOX
She can no longer be trusted.
She admits to being co-opted by the Awesome Club.
She admits to not being in control of her own play actions and comes forward telling everything because she was told to in a PM.
And she's trying to convince everyone to accept the Awesome Club as friends with the same venom and bullying that she was using to try to convince everyone that there was no Awesome Club ... AFTER BEING CO-OPTED BY IT!!!
Let's lynch her again, and this time let's do it right!

-_- said @ 10:01am GMT on 24th Jun [Score:-4 WTF]
I'm changing my vote.
I vote to LYNCH NARRENSHIFF

This isn't a game it's a story, and if we deviate off of his prepared script he takes an active role in the game so as to preserve his preferred outcome.

Narrenschiff has obviously taken the side of the Awesome Club and is taking steps to protect them from lynchings and attacks.

First he corrected sythe for listing Rainbow Randolf as "cult" .... now this might have been a simple matter of addressing the unproven nature of the Awesome club and not wanting it to appear that the GM or his record keeper were giving away secrets(that's how I initially took it).

Then he modded DefianceFalcon as insightful for commenting:
"Why do you assume that this awesome club necessarily conforms to the same rules as laid down in the gospel of mafiascum.net? Narrenschiff (like most of us around here) seems like a non-conformist soul who enjoys screwing with people's heads. Even if he decided to base the RCG on the cult leader, there's no guarantee that he has the same goals or restrictions."

And finally when I replied to DefianceFalcon that I disagreed with him Narrenschiff posted this reply to me:
"C'mon face ol' buddy, check who modded that comment up.".

???WHAT THE MOTHER FUCKING FUCK ???

I almost exclusively GMed for 9 years of AD&D and similar games before I was 20yrs old.
The first rule of GMing is "DO NOT GET PERSONALLY INVOLVED", and the reason for that is because it changes it from being a game into being a story written by the GM and destroys any and all pretense of a balanced game.

This is bullshit and I'm out of here, lynch my sorry ass so that the rest of you can act out Narrenschiffs preferred plot.

BTW ... I'm just a human, so if the androids want to kill me... GO FOR IT!
here's some proof for ya if it helps:

!! !! THIS IS BULLSHIT NARRENSCHIFF ... YOU'VE SINGLEHANDEDLY DESTROYED ALL GAME BALANCE !! !!

If I were an android I would be seriously looking at quiting too since MOTHERFUCKING GOD OF THE ONAN UNIVERSE (the GM if you're slow) has come out on the side of the Awesome Club and Townies in general.
This game is no longer balanced at all ..... if it ever was.

!!! FUCK !!!
And I was having a really good time playing too.
Fucking bullshit game ruining GM can't keep his mitts off the story line long enough to let the players form their own opinions and dictate their own actions ..... !!! FUCK THAT AND FUCK HIM !!!

BTW, no worries, I will still be GMing Sensible Scoobies and perhaps another mini game after it ends for 12 players.

badgerbaiter said @ 10:04am GMT on 24th Jun [Score:1 Underrated]
2nd rule of GMing,
Don't talk about GMing.

-_- said @ 10:08am GMT on 24th Jun
what's your point?

badgerbaiter said @ 10:14am GMT on 24th Jun

I'm actually on your side for the moment.
For my sins.

-_- said @ 10:34am GMT on 24th Jun
Well at least I'm not the only person here who has played in well run games before.

Caffeine said @ 10:08am GMT on 24th Jun [Score:2 Insightful]
I've played tabletop for years, myself, and there are some things you need to understand.

1) This isn't tabletop.
2) Narren hinted at the classification of a role on Day 4, when he'd already given that classification on Day 0. Instead of just correcting people, he watched events unfold, and made a small comment here and there. This is not game breaking, nor a disruption of balance.
3) You are overreacting in the extreme.

-_- said @ 10:26am GMT on 24th Jun
Then you must have played in soime shitty campaigns if you're willing to accept this kind of shit from a GM.
It's a hell of a lot more than hinting when you come right out an mod people as being insightful for pushing your own agenda.

1) and it differs how? (other than the lack of dice)
2) It's not "small comments" when you step into the game to counter the actions of one of the players so as to preserve your own plot twist.(regardless of whether the player is right or wrong)
3) If you think so then you don't understand what has happened.

Caffeine said @ 10:38am GMT on 24th Jun
Or maybe you're just overreacting.

You're acting like a five year old, so just take your ball and leave.

badgerbaiter said @ 10:41am GMT on 24th Jun [Score:1 Insightful]
It is confusing:
I would prefer either a straight explanation or nothing.
I am happy for the arguing, which is part of the game. But we should not be trying to analise in game comments by the GamesMaster.

-_- said @ 10:43am GMT on 24th Jun
I agree with you on all your points.

cb361 said @ 11:18am GMT on 24th Jun
I posted on Day 3 that I wanted a full explanation of the rules. I would love to GM a mafia game on SE at some point in the future and would never insert rules that the players were not aware of. By not telling the players the full rules, it leaves us not knowing which way to jump no matter how insightfully we analyse people posts.

I still want an explanation of the basic game rules. But I don't agree with -_- that Narrenschiff has done anything manipulative, except to give us hints about the game rules when I want everything.

For a long time -_- was insisting that the RCG is anti-town. Now he seems to have shifted to war anger at the referee instead. I guess that he must be town after posting that message jpeg, but as far as I'm concerned that's totally outside the game rules and virtually counts as resignation from the game whether it's real or fake.

OOC : (I was listening to the radio while typing this, and a commentator just said "The Internet didn't even exist in 1997..." WTF! )

-_- said @ 11:38am GMT on 24th Jun
I'm basicaly volunteering to be lynched or killed today/tonight so don't worry yourself about it splodey.

Bob LLama said @ 10:21am GMT on 24th Jun
Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude...

You need to take a step back. For serious. You need one of my birthday-candle-lit medical-grade bong rips.

-_- said @ 10:32am GMT on 24th Jun
That would take the edge off my anger for sure, but it wouldn't change the game back to ballanced.
If the Awesome club killed Mercers instead of converting them it would be more ballanced.
If the Androids had a potential advantage available to them of similar strength to the Awesome Club it would be more ballanced. (infiltration isn't quite the same)
If the GM weren't getting personally involved in the game so as to preserve the Awesome Club from suspicions and actions it would still be balanced enough to play.
As is .... fuck it.

Bob LLama said @ 10:39am GMT on 24th Jun
When the first mention of the Awesome Club emerged, I felt basically the same way as you do now.

But then I go over, before I got all Cartman "screw you guys, I'm going home".

I understand your frustration. I understand you're staring at the business end of a rope. But a hissy fit will only alienate you from future games that will undoubtedly be fun.

Just roll with the punches. You played a good game, there were a couple twists that you may or may not agree with with, and for fuck's sake die with some dignity.

Bad sportsmanship, man. It's on him, not on you. Just roll with it.

-_- said @ 10:54am GMT on 24th Jun
Oh I don't care if I get Lynched.
For that matter, before Narrenschiff took sides, I was perfectly content with being lynched because my human status would help focus attention on snowfox and the Awesome Club.

I'm just one player in a game of over 30 remaining players.

I (and all of us) should be allowed to form our own opinions and chart our own course without the GM butting in as a person and taking sides.

If he had found a way within game mechanics to share info instead of just doing the "words of fire in the air" thing I would be fine with it.

But as is I'm just one guy and I was a vocal proponent of lynching the Awesome Club (wrong though I apparently was) I take offense at not being allowed to make mistakes or change the course of the game to something other than what the GM wishes.

Think about it ...

If Narrenschiff wasn't trying to preserve the Awesome Club, out of some personal desire to see how it plays out, would he have gotten himself involved in the debate?

Any body that wants to play in a game that allows free choice, as opposed to predestined story arcs, should be taking offense too.

Bob LLama said @ 10:59am GMT on 24th Jun
Could he have gone about it differently? Sure.
Is it affecting the game? Sure.

This isn't some hardcore mafia game for die-hards, nor should it be taken as such. We're all casual players, Narren included. We all fuck up a little bit.

Totally not a big deal. Adapt and move on. I promise you you can if you try. Take it from me, I'm not just the president of Adapt And Move On Club For Men™, I'm also a member.

Caffeine said @ 11:00am GMT on 24th Jun
There were no words of fire in the air. He didn't come out and say "Hey, yo, -_-, you were wrong. Let me give you the lay of the land."

He upmodded a comment that said the role of the Awesome Club probably isn't exactly the same as the role of the cult. That's it. That's all he did.

And you fucking exploded and started laying on the theatrics. Seriously. At the very least, walk away for a few hours and come back with a clear head instead of trying as hard as you can to ruin the game for everyone because you've got an issue with something the GM did.

Bob LLama said @ 11:03am GMT on 24th Jun [Score:1 Underrated]
My advice:

A big bong rip and some TGP. Download something nice off pureTNA. Something with Sasha Grey. And like 6 obscenely-endowed guys. It's Sunday after all. Have a little -_- time.

Then, come back. Re-evaluate. If you still feel that way then, well by golly burn it to the ground!

badgerbaiter said @ 11:11am GMT on 24th Jun
Sasha recently suffered from anal warts. But she is fine now. So downloading her material from PureTNA should be alright now.

Bob LLama said @ 11:13am GMT on 24th Jun
: O

a) Why do you know that.

b) Why did you feel the need to share that?

c) Why on earth would her having anal warts preclude us from downloading her stuff?

d) No, seriously. How the fuck do you know that?

Aidentas said @ 11:16am GMT on 24th Jun
It's on her myspace.

-_- said @ 11:17am GMT on 24th Jun
Ribbed and bumpy for his pleasure?

-_- said @ 11:16am GMT on 24th Jun
When Narren followed up his mod of a comment with a comment to me about it that was basically a voice from the burning bush as far as game mechanics are concerned.
The only reason he did it was because I was trying to wipe out the Awesome Club.
Now tell me ... what is my characters reason for suddenly changing course of action?

Narrenschiff decided to tell everyone that the Awesome Club isn't a Cult lest I succeed in lynching snowfox and messing up the RCGs plans.

Would Narrenschiff have done the same thing if I were an android?

Should the Androids not be allowed to try to lynch snowfox and the RCG either?

Also by addressing me directly with instructions to reconsider my actions as regards the Awesome Club Narrenschiff confirmed my humanity to anyone who would suspect that he wouldn't try to stop an android from lynching snowfox and the RCG (other wise what's the point of being an android?).

So where's the game ballance now?

Caffeine said @ 11:23am GMT on 24th Jun
Again. He implied the Really Charismatic Guy was different from a Cultist.

He did not say how.

Anyway, what is your charater's motivation for suspecting a cultist with very specific abilities? Did he go ahead and look up the character roles on MafiaScum?
No, he didn't. He was responding to a comment that had nothing to fucking do with roleplaying with an ambiguous mod that he called attention to. Everyone read into it what they would. I'm sure his mod had nothing to do with what your role was.

The game balance was always there. You're overreacting and acting unreasonably. Let it go.

-_- said @ 11:29am GMT on 24th Jun
Hey look!
we still disagree.
Isn't that fun?

Seriously though Caff I'm sorry to have upset you ... it wasn't my intention at all.

-_- said @ 3:11pm GMT on 24th Jun [Score:1 Insightful]
Btw I suppose that my characters reason for being concerned about a Cult is that Sythe did a good job of articulating my pre-existing concern.
Entertainingly enough he had a habit of voting to lynch me , and he turned out to be an android, but I felt that in some ways (record keeping for one) he really did care about the colony.

graham said @ 11:11am GMT on 24th Jun [Score:-1]
dude, seriously.

should we all start just posting what we are? just like that?

stop making blinky texts, and get back at fleecing out androids.

without losing your mind.

Dioxin said @ 12:52pm GMT on 24th Jun
A history of events:

Narrenschiff started this game with a role called the RCG without exactly explaining what he does.

One player who was killed has the label "awesome club" revealed upon death.

Most people infer the RCG is recruiting people into this "awesome club".

One player (snowfox) confirms this and tries to start a bandwagon convincing the town the club is harmless.

Another player (-_-) tries to start a rival bandwagon that states snowfox is lying and the club (which they begin calling a cult) is dangerous.

Some players (i.e. -_- and bandwagon co.) takes over the threads insisting the awesome club (which, again, they insist is a cult) functions like the cults described on mafiascum.

Narrenschiff corrects the labelling (cult) to the one he originally used (awesome club), while also hinting that players should reserve throwing around their own labels until they know more.

Some player, I'm not going to say who, then flips out and shits all over the game.

Conclusion: That player needs to either chill the fuck out or get booted from the game before they ruin it for everyone else.

Dioxin said @ 1:32pm GMT on 24th Jun
(which they begin calling a cult) is dangerous -> (which he begins calling a cult) is dangerous

Emphasis only works when it's not totally misplaced.

-_- said @ 3:16pm GMT on 24th Jun
Just so as we're clear Narrenschiff did more than correct sythe.
He also modded a comment about the Awesome Club probably not being a cult as +1 informative And he replied to one of my comments in the same thread with a remark about how I should pay attention to how he had modded that comment.
He was trying to get me to back off on lynching snowfox apparently as that was what I was arguing for ... and wiping out the Awesome club that is.

Dioxin said @ 3:56pm GMT on 24th Jun
Narrenschiff corrects the labelling (cult) to the one he originally used (awesome club), while also hinting that players should reserve throwing around their own labels until they know more.

-_- said @ 4:58pm GMT on 24th Jun [Score:-1 Flamebait]
Which coming from the GM says "you're wrong" whereas coming from a player it says "you might be wrong".

sythe said @ 5:06pm GMT on 24th Jun [Score:-1]
For fucks sake you two, either give it a rest, take it into PM, or just go make out together in the corner. I don't care, but you're both pissing all over the goddamn voting thread and even though I'm dead it's still annoying as hell.

Dioxin said @ 5:17pm GMT on 24th Jun [Score:-1]
Christ. With all the other defacings I didn't even notice this was part of the vote thread. I'll stop adding to the pile on here.

Dioxin said @ 5:09pm GMT on 24th Jun
Which is bad how? You misinterpreted a ruling from day 0. You were wrong about the rule from the start. He was fully in his right to tell you so, but never even directly confronted you over it. All he said amounted to nudging you to pay more attention to what was already explained.

Dioxin said @ 1:26pm GMT on 24th Jun [Score:-2]
p.s. In all those years of DMing you never once corrected a single misconception? If a player said "lets kill the town wizard because the DM told us he's evil" you'd never correct him with "actually, I never said that"? If a player says he read somewhere all scrolls a character finds in game will contain new spells, then throws a tantrum because the scroll he found didn't have a new spell, would you accomidate him on principle? If the party refuse to take part in the dungeon delving epic you planned, because they mistakenly believe you told them on the first day none of their characters will ever survive underground, would you have thrown out weeks of planning and not give it another thought?

p.p.s If the GM insisting on labeling his concept with name he though up is all it takes for you to start disregarding rules and work yourself into a game breaking frenzy, then maybe you getting killed last game was a huge blessing in disguise.

p.p.p.s Fuck you... and Fuck you!!!111oneone一

-_- said @ 3:28pm GMT on 24th Jun [Score:-1 Flamebait]
You're cute when you're stupid ... cutie.

If someone is quoting me incorrectly I may correct them but if their character is persuing a course of action due to poor memory or other common errors I would not.
If characters fail to enter a part of a region that's cool with me, I can always use the same resources for a different day.
If someone is quoting stuff at me they read somewhere else as how my game should be I tell them to go play in that mythical somewhere else.

If you think that my onl;y reason for distrusting the Awesome Club was the Mafiascum thing sythe linked then you're cuter than ever.
They are theoretically anti Mercer ... mercers are pro-town.
They are seemingly controlled by the RCG, not just recruited.
Snowfox knows I'm no android and sought to lynch me nonetheless.
Snowfox is controlled by the RCG apparently.
The RCG must have given her permission to vote thusly.

That's enough reasons to be concerned and to fight back.

Go fuck yourself if you think it's your place to tell others how to play.

Dioxin said @ 4:17pm GMT on 24th Jun [Score:-1]
Then he modded DefianceFalcon as insightful for commenting:
"Why do you assume that this awesome club necessarily conforms to the same rules as laid down in the gospel of mafiascum.net? ..."

vs

If someone is quoting stuff at me they read somewhere else as how my game should be I tell them to go play in that mythical somewhere else.

If that's too indirect to be a contradiction for you, then I don't see what you have to complain about when narrenschiff game someone who correctly interpreted the rules a +1 informative. Either narrenschiff's vote and comment was no big deal, and you threw a tantrum over nothing, or narrenschiff did something horribly stupid by denying a connection between the RCG and mafiascum's definition of cults, and you did something equally stupid by shitting on the game because narrenschiff didn't scribe to mafiascum's rules.

As for your reasons for distrusting the awesome club, every one of them was a conjecture. And that's your right to make them. But to accuse the GM of breaking the game by not conforming to your conjectures of how you think the game should work, that was most unbecoming stupidity for one of your gaming experience.

I'll leave you with a pearl of wisdom that I found most insightful.

"Go fuck yourself if you think it's your place to tell others how to play."

-_- said @ 5:06pm GMT on 24th Jun [Score:-1]
With those little clues and sentences Narrenschiff fucked up everything I was trying to accomplish over the next few days.
Clues and corrections have their place but not when they address something which is at the core of the play dynamics of the moment ... such s a battle between lynching bandwagons ... that counts as taking sides.
For Fucks Sake Narrenschiff could have at least PMed me and asked if I had reasons for my actions other than what I was telling publicly.
As is he made my position untenable and undid the work I was doing and some of what I had already done.

made you look.

eightysix said @ 9:40pm GMT on 23rd Jun
i vote to lynch face.

cb361 said @ 10:39pm GMT on 23rd Jun
I vote to lynch -_-

I'm doing that now even though I've only had a rough scan through the post, because my laptop might run out of power any moment. I don't see that we have any objective evidence that the awesome club is anti-town, and a fair bit of evidence that it is pro-town. I think that -_- coming out strongly against the club like Sythe did, is very suspicious. In fact like before, my only reservation is actually that like before, -_- seems to be acting in such an utterly androidy way that I feel that a real android would be more subtle about achieving their aims. If -_- is an android then the awesome club must have them very worried to make these sort of risky public attacks.

Bladesmith Dualscimitars said @ 11:52pm GMT on 23rd Jun [Score:1 Insightful]
I vote to lynch snowfox.

Rapidly fingering everyone who disagrees with her, and her sudden flip-flop on the cult thing, saying it doesn't exist, and now it does and she's a member?

We have the Mercers as a group with PM'img authority, I seriously doubt we'd get two groups like that, as it stacks the odds against the driod bastards. Combined with the lack of a Serial Killer/Werewolf role, well, I think this awesome club really isn't so good.

Who knows, maybe Narrenschiff did make a game with horrible balance? I seriously doubt that though.

And the description of the RCG.
A Really Charismatic Guy – This character is really charismatic. Who knows what that entails? Watch out for this guy. He’s a townie.

Doesn't really put a whole lot of faith in his actual allegiance. I'd imagine that means, if he gets investigated, he shows up as town.

As much as Sythe was an android bastard, and -_- might be one as well, I just have a feeling that they might be right about this whole cult thing. Especially with the cult picking a confirmed townie as a mouthpiece, the guilt factor, the trust factor, and the weight that snowfox usually carries in influencing the other players.

I dunno, I'd usually be willing to lynch -_- and let the result determine how much we could trust snowfox, but if the cult is truely not on our side, it has to be in the town's best interest to off someone who is now a confirmed cultist, rather than let the cult grow.

dualscimitars said @ 8:03pm GMT on 24th Jun
Changing my vote to no lynch.

badgerbaiter said @ 1:43am GMT on 24th Jun
Vote to lynch Snowfox

The Cult must be a threat to the town all things considered.
I hope that the Androids can maybe target a good candidate for the the RCG.

I will change my vote if Snowfox can give any real evidence that the Cult is in anyway town friendly and what it's win conditions are.

snowfox said @ 4:52am GMT on 24th Jun
We gave you an android. Sythe started this bullshit and -_- is propagating it. They are on the same side spreading the same lies.

Just think it through. Think who started the rumors. Think what Narrenschiff has had to say. He has never supported the cult, bs. And he knows what the awesome club really is, obviously.

badgerbaiter said @ 9:55am GMT on 24th Jun
Not going to change my vote as I cant see how the balance of the game would be kept if there was an ever growing group of people that were anti Android. The only way this would work was if there were around half the town as android to begin with.

Caffeine said @ 10:00am GMT on 24th Jun
Unless, as noted, the group doesn't have a chance to grow. Like I said to Misanthrope... step back. Use your brain.
Giving one guy the ability to PM?
Hell, he'd have a one in three chance of fucking it up the first day. There's nothing unbalanced about it. There's really not. It's far more plausible than the cult theory. You were in the last game, you should know this. I understand having to explain it to verycleanteeth, but I shouldn't have to explain it to you.

badgerbaiter said @ 10:13am GMT on 24th Jun
There is no Serial Killer,
The game will last for ages.
Unless there is a reason for both the Androids and the Town to cooperate to get something accomplished. I agree with -_- that there was a story and it got revealed too quickly. Otherwise the balance would be fucking skewed. It seems that Snowfox will survive, and we know where she lives. But this is dangerous. Obviously not so dangerous as Naren did not expect us to find it for a few days, but I think that getting to the cult ASAP is a benefit to the town.

badgerbaiter said @ 2:38pm GMT on 24th Jun
Change my vote in light of recent events to.........GRAHAM

badgerbaiter said @ 2:41pm GMT on 24th Jun
Actually, Lynch Hobospice in order to save Snowfox

can she still be protected please?
Can you ever forgive me?

snowfox said @ 3:18pm GMT on 24th Jun
I still love you.

cb361 said @ 9:56am GMT on 24th Jun
As far as I am concerned, there was only mention of town and androids in the game rules, so as far as I am concerned a win for this Awesome Club is a win for the town. And if Narrenschiff were to tell me at the end of the game that a third side had won, I would call shenanigans and consider myself a town winner.

Narrenschiff said @ 1:19pm GMT on 24th Jun
Yes.

CapnSilver said @ 1:49am GMT on 24th Jun [Score:1 Interesting]
Okay, I'd like to anounce a very special and dynamic vote from me.
Out of -_- and snowfox, I will vote for the person with less votes in the hopes of getting a double lynch.

Both of you are shitting me and need to die.

bruceski said @ 3:50am GMT on 24th Jun
Now that's an interesting vote. Dunno if I'd call it good or bad, that's only something that can be told in hindsight. Ballsy.

Context said @ 7:16am GMT on 24th Jun
I don't see this as a very wise move. If both of them get lynched, you're guaranteeing that one innocent dies... possibly two. It could very well be that they are both innocents, though snowfox has shown where her allegiances lie. I trust that she is a member of the Club, and Narrenschiff has hinted that it is not a Cult. That's terminology that sythe, an android, began using.

Why lynch both on the same day? If they both need to be lynched... by all means, let's do it. But lynching two people is denying yourself information about the other.

If we lynch -_-, we can actually learn something... but we know where snowfox stands, and lynching her won't actually gain anything. So, let's lynch -_- for now, if he turns out to be innocent, then we can take a look at snowfox and get more explanation from her. If he turns out to be an android, the androids simply made the decision to have one very outspoken member. It's a decent gambit, really, as it seperates him from the other androids, who I suspect are hanging back a bit, and it gives the androids influence over the day votes.

Lynching two people is not a benefit in this case.

CapnSilver said @ 12:43pm GMT on 24th Jun [Score:1 Interesting]
I have a new theory that involves voting for Hobospice just to be contrary to the rest of you.

I have a bad feeling about what's happening

Bob LLama said @ 12:51pm GMT on 24th Jun
Jesus, finally someone listens to me.

HoboSpice said @ 6:06am GMT on 24th Jun
For some reason, I can't picture the androids sending another of their own to replace sythe as the primary spokesperson for an anti-cult movement. Therefore I think -_- is innocent, despite snowfox's claims to the contrary.

At the same time though, I can't make up my mind if the cult is good or bad. There are some convincing arguments on both sides of the issue.

Sigh. I choose to abstain until I know more. At worst, maybe I can break a tie so we don't double-lynch and make the androids life easier.

Bob LLama said @ 7:12am GMT on 24th Jun [Score:2]
I'm personally still convinced that -_- is town, aaaaaaaaaand, given the fact that Narrenschiff has been a busy little bee hinting like crazy that the cult may not be bad, I'm all confused in my little noggin.

So, -_ and foxy, you're off the hook in my book... FOR NOW.

However, there is one sneaky little worm who got lucky right now, and that's HoboSpice. He was all chummy and pro-Sythe. He's just a HoboBot5000, I'm sure of it.

As much as it pains me to vote with Graham, who I don't trust for shit...

I VOTE TO LYNCH HOBOSPICE. Lot of good it will do, too...

Narrenschiff said @ 8:02pm GMT on 24th Jun
Day now officially ends on Monday June 25th 6pm PST. Let's try and move on from this nasty business.

Caffeine said @ 9:10am GMT on 24th Jun
I vote to lynch Face.

Reasoning can be found further down.

Caffeine said @ 2:30pm GMT on 24th Jun
In light of the entire game exploding, I vote to lynch carrotboi.

Even after all this mess, he casts a brand shiney new vote for snowfox. Unbelievable.

Caffeine said @ 2:34pm GMT on 24th Jun [Score:1 Insightful]
Whoop, belay that, he's caught on... let's have a look at the list o' suspicious people...
...eeny meeny...

I vote to lynch aaroncc

evilmarshmallow said @ 9:38am GMT on 24th Jun
I vote to lynch -_- aka Face.

While I'm not too positive that he's an android, I don't feel lynching snowfox is a good idea and since he's the only one with enough votes to rival the amount of votes snowfox currently has, I'm going to vote for him.

evilmarshmallow said @ 2:27pm GMT on 24th Jun
I vote to lynch HoboSpice.

carrotboi also seems like a good choice to me, but I'll go with HoboSpice for now.

shiney things said @ 11:35am GMT on 24th Jun
I vote lynch (-_-)

i have faith in the awesome club until given evidence otherwise.

shiney things said @ 2:59pm GMT on 24th Jun
i change my vote to hobospice in hopes of saving snowfox!

aaroncc said @ 11:35am GMT on 24th Jun
cult paranoia or face. ...either way we are killing a townie (I think). I know snowfox is part of the cult. Face is not. The cult scares me more than face, so I vote Snowfox

aaroncc said @ 2:57pm GMT on 24th Jun
well that does change things doesn't it.

no vote until I can get my bearings again

SiryumYum said @ 1:09pm GMT on 24th Jun
I vote for snowfox I just have a hard time believing the cult has our best interest at heart.

SiryumYum said @ 6:17pm GMT on 24th Jun
Well, since snowfox has been confirmed as a townie AGAIN, I change my vote to hobospice. seems like the logical choice at this point in time.

carrotboi said @ 2:20pm GMT on 24th Jun
I vote to lynch Snowfox

Bob LLama said @ 2:22pm GMT on 24th Jun
What.

The.

Fuck?

Scroll down a ways and take a look at the bomb Narrenschiff dropped.

carrotboi said @ 2:30pm GMT on 24th Jun
Well fuck me, how the hell did i miss that.

Bob LLama said @ 2:31pm GMT on 24th Jun
Step 1: Open eyes.

Step 2: ???

Step 3: Profit!

carrotboi said @ 2:36pm GMT on 24th Jun
shush, i just woke up, it's like 11am in sydney and the reading part of my brain isn't awake yet.

carrotboi said @ 2:33pm GMT on 24th Jun
CHANGE VOTE TO Graham because you smell funny.

Kimota said @ 3:01pm GMT on 24th Jun
I'm voting for Graham.

He's acting too... normal. That smells fishy.

Philistine said @ 3:14pm GMT on 24th Jun
I vote to lynch CapnSilver for trying to kill at least 1 known citizen.

Philistine said @ 3:26pm GMT on 24th Jun
Ah shit.

Note to self -
1) Don't post drunk
2) Don't lynch late
3) Refresh page
4) ??????
5) Profit

(sorry Capnsilver)

Dioxin said @ 5:30pm GMT on 22nd Jun [Score:2 Underrated]
I vote to lunch!

Aidentas said @ 5:33pm GMT on 22nd Jun
Frick.

Dioxin said @ 5:38pm GMT on 22nd Jun
Monkey zero lives! Randalf held his tail, but the monkey is still King of Vegas Minor.

Kimota said @ 5:41pm GMT on 22nd Jun
Crap. That's it. We are done.

juju said @ 5:59pm GMT on 22nd Jun
Last game both cops were taken out on the same night. And we see how well that worked out for the mob in the long run.

penisinface said @ 5:53pm GMT on 22nd Jun
well damn... that was obvious. why wasn't the protector all over randolf last night?

(ooc: I had six posts last time and am actively reading like every crackpot theory with an obsessive scrutiny. please take me off notice)

penisinface said @ 6:41pm GMT on 22nd Jun
OOC: thnx ;D

-_- said @ 5:55pm GMT on 22nd Jun [Score:-1 WTF]

Sensible Scoobies

When you signed up for drama class it seemed like it would be an easy A.
That was before you found out that your teacher is a method actor with a Magic SchoolBus fetish.
Sure, drama teachers are supposed to be a little eccentric but the outfits this man wears can be atrocious.
When you were studying Titanic he had you splashing around in a kiddie pool full of ice water.
Study Tremmors and he strands you in a desert town where you're not allowed to touch the ground without "dying".
And now that you're getting ready to study Disneys Haunted House (with Eddie Murphy!) he's brought you to an old deserted mansion in the woods.
And then he disappeared. ....
Right after lunch you realize your teacher and the bus driver are missing, a quick investigation reveals that the doors and windows are locked and appear unbreakable.
This becomes apparent when you find an old and yellowed newspaper clipping showing this self same house, it tells of how the home once belonged to the countries largest manufacturer of residential security products, how his paranoia got worse over the years as he made his own home into a fortress, and how he disappeared ... never to be seen again.
Great .... looks like you're trapped in an actual haunted house.
That's when you find the bodies, your teacher and busdriver are discovered in the coat closet by the front door dead and covered in blood .... scrawled on the wall of the closet in blood and your teachers handwriting is a message.

"F- ,killed teacher".

Looks like someone is going to have to take Drama over in summer school .... that is, if they don't kill all the witnesses.
Oops! you're the witnesses.

Day one has started and will end at lunch time here on Onan, I'm hoping to get two day cycles out of each Onan day .. therefore there will be strict deadlines .... if you don't think you will be available during a time period (day/night) you should tell everyone ahead of time how you vote (specials PM me during the day with your night actions if you must.)

When you move your teachers body you find more written on the wall in blood ... though this time the handwriting is different, as you are watching the last words form from blood bleeding from the wall itself.
The message reads;

I KNOW WHO YOU ARE !

aaroncc.................Stoner
Aidentas................Freak
assbastard............Bully
Context.................Goth
DefianceFalcon.....Hippie
Eru........................Exchange Student
evilmarshmallow....Geek
itsthatoddguy.........Loner
Misanthrope...........Jock
sociology_boy........Class President

I KNOW YOUR SECRETS

Stripmall Satanists:(mob) steeped in the forbidden lore you've shoplifted from Barnes and Noble you are ready to go through the steps of a spell you found in an IDIOTS GUIDE to DEMON SUMMONING , all you need to do is one blood sacrifice a night untill you get it right. Luckily your gullibillity is ballanced by your stubborness .... good thing you brought spare sacrifices. You are the secret killers in the night and as such may PM one another. Once the Satanists are all gone their spell will evaporate and the doors will unlock.

Under Cover Paranormal Investigators:(masons) Who ya gonna call? .. well yourselves I guess, you signed up for Drama class just for this field trip ..
now you have to figure out what's going on and stop the Satanist before they kill everyone. You are the secret brotherhood of concerned citizens and as such you may PM one another. If one of the UCPIs are targeted by the Ghost of Mr. Chicken they have a chance(3/6) of capturing him, if targeted by the occultist they have a lesser chance(2/6) of mistaking it for a ghost and capturing it, but in the morning when you find that one of your class mates is now a vegetable you can decide to free the spirit so that it may return to the body ... but one of you will have to come forward to do it.

Insomniac:(doctor) You can't sleep ... you've tried, but nothing seems to help ... as long as you're awake though you might as well spend the night watching over someone and protect them from being disturbed in their sleep ..... plus sometimes you draw on them. If the Satanists target the person you are guarding you have a small chance(1/6) of catching a glimpse of one.

Occultist:(cop) You like to people watch from the inside, you were born with The Shinning ... a mystical abillity to project your astral form outside your body at night and enter the spirit realm of another person where you typically try to find out what they really think of you ... but it's handy around here for finding out peoples true identities and their most closely guarded personal secrets. If you target an UCPI there is a small chance(2/6) of them mistaking you for a ghost and capturing your spirit ..... which won't kill your body ... but it might as well as far as you're concerned.

The Ghost of Mr. Chicken:(vigilante) You built this house! You fortified it to keep out intruders of all sorts! And now someones trying to summon a demon in your home ..... boy are you pissed. Each night you take over the body of this one teenager for long enough to kill one of the other intruders in hopes of getting rid of the Satanists... but you'll take what you can get. You just want these DAMN KIDS OUT OF YOUR HOUSE! If you target one of the UCPIs they have a chance(3/6) of capturing your ghost and leaving this mortal shell you've possesed the way it originally was ... just a normal teen.(you lose your special role but not your life ... or your memory).

You've got Teh Ghey!:(cult leader) A recent poll of homosexuals reveals that 64% were born that way while 36% were just sucked into it ... every night you get a chance to "recruit" one person with your "oral arguments". If you target a Satanist though they'll kill you while your back is turned so be careful. If the last survivors all have Teh Ghey when the game ends then YOU are the winner and will likely be crowned Queen at the next parade.

I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU DID LAST SUMMER.

ghostbastard/assbully said @ 6:11pm GMT on 22nd Jun
Observations based on nothing so far: Okay, seriously, what the fuck is a jock doing in drama class? That just SMACKS of teh ghey to me. And, really, a GOTH? Total satanist right there. Or occultist. And the exchange student... I don't remember seeing him around before. Could be an undercover narc. I swear to God I'll beat the shit out of any satanist out there. I may be a bully, but I'm a devout christian bully! I maim for the LORD!

aaroncc said @ 6:17pm GMT on 22nd Jun
more like you maim ass for the lord. Every bully is just a closet gay who doesn't have the guts to come out and takes his repressed desires out by giving wedgies to the underclassmen.

assbastard said @ 9:28pm GMT on 22nd Jun
***Why don't you take your half-baked theories back to your BONG, you degenerate? Your body is a temple! A TEMPLE TO THE LORD! Do not defile it with drugs!***

aaroncc said @ 9:56pm GMT on 22nd Jun
***

eightysix said @ 6:17pm GMT on 22nd Jun
*passes by*
wow you are a bunch of guys are playing a game where teh ghey tries to recruit people to his cause?

... i don't know what to say.

-_- said @ 6:27pm GMT on 22nd Jun [Score:1 Underrated]
Post your votes as a reply to this comment. Please do not reply to any comment but your own. This day ends on Saturday Night at 4pm PST.

Night 1 runs from Sat 4pm to Sat 12 midnight PST.
Day 2 runs from Sun 00:01 am to Sun 9pm PST.

aaroncc said @ 6:33pm GMT on 22nd Jun
Aidentas the freak is a satanist!!

(mainly posted because I don't know where I will be tomorrow, so I gotta vote early)

Aidentas said @ 6:39pm GMT on 22nd Jun
Misanthrope the jock is a Satanist!

DefianceFalcon said @ 8:31pm GMT on 22nd Jun
***
Aidentas is a ghey, possessed satanist!
***

ghostbastard/assbully said @ 9:25pm GMT on 22nd Jun
Misanthrope the jock is a satanist! Well, I think he's teh ghey, but as long as we're voting to murder someone, we might as well take care of the one that can win the game on his own over an army of his own pawns.

GOD HATES FAGS! *eye gouge!*

itsthatoddguy said @ 11:59pm GMT on 22nd Jun
***
Stupid jocks and their friends...

I vote Misanthrope.
***

Context said @ 3:47am GMT on 23rd Jun
Vote to lynch assbastard

Eru said @ 5:04am GMT on 23rd Jun
I vote Misanthrope

With so little to go on at the moment, it's as good as anything I can think of.

evilmarshmallow said @ 5:52am GMT on 23rd Jun
***Goddamn jocks think they can always pick on me AND MY LOVE FOR COMPUTERS! I DON'T MAKE FUN OF YOUR GIRLFRIENDS!

I vote Misanthrope***

Aidentas said @ 5:56am GMT on 23rd Jun
***
<3
P.S. Sorry for trying to get you lynched in real life.
***

Misanthrope said @ 6:59am GMT on 23rd Jun
I vote Aidentas

-_- said @ 1:43pm GMT on 23rd Jun [Score:1 Informative]
DAY 1 ENDS

Misanthrope is dragged, kicking and screaming (which takes the work of everyone), to the living room where a silken rope has already been strung from the chandelier.
Forced to "walk the table" like some kind of indoor pirate he is sent swing back and forth, back and forth, back and forth ... and it's then that you realize his neck is to muscular for the rope to cut off his air ... and now he seems to have snapped the rope used to tie his hands behind his back ... he grabs the rope above his head and pulls himself up!
With one final jerk he is able to pull himself up high enough to reach the chandelier!
But that "final jerk" was final for our Jock as well since it seems to have broken whatever was holding up the chandelier as well.
As the candle laden wrought iron monstrosity dives toward, and through, the floor you see an odd look in Misanthropes eyes .... peaceful resignation? ..... philosophical acceptance?
Whatever it is it disapears when the chandelier crashes through the basement floor and drags Misanthrope down into one of the mansions many pits, cisterns, and wells ..... oh, it was either a well or a cistern as you finally hear the double splash of the chandelier and its own Captain Ahab as they continue their journey to the murky depth below.

Sifting through Misanthropes Letterman Jacket and his Back Pack you find a couple of books of crossword puzzles, a heavilly read copy of "Ways of Sleep ... a Buddhist path to conquering insomnia" and a permanent marker.

Misanthrope was the Insomniac.
Better luck tommorrow.

Night moves need to be PMed to me asap or they won't happen this night.

Day 2 starts at one minute past midnight PST.

-_- said @ 6:29pm GMT on 23rd Jun [Score:1 Informative]

DAY 2 BEGINS

When you're trapped in a haunted house the nights can be worse than the days.
And oh what a night it was ... it seems that all the evils which haunt this blighted patch of Earth were emboldened by the lynching of the Insomniac yesterday.
The night was filled with sounds and screams but who would go investigate their origins?
No one who wanted to live apparently.
When the first rays of mornings light shine through the grime smeared unbreakable windows of the house you all go shambling into the hallway to do a quick head count.
Perhaps not everyone is awake yet ... some rooms need to be checked.
First there's Aidentas still in his bed, but when you pull back the blankets you find him bleached paper white, his eyes frozen in wide and shocked fright, his mouth formed into a pitiful mewl, and dead as a doornail.
Looking through his personal possessions (just packing them up for the next of kin right?) you find a quartz crystal on a silver chain and a notepad with a page titled "Who's Who", oh dear - he was the Occultist.
Cautiously peeking in on sociology_boy you discover his room to be empty but there are some signs of a scuffle, heading downstairs to get some coffee you find sociology_boy in the kitchen ...it seems that was where the knives were ... the worktable where he's tied down is covered in blood and internal organs while his body seems to be filled with salt, these Satanists aren't just murderous, they over season as well.
All manners of pretense are cast aside as you rifle through his belongings where you find an unlicensed particle accelerator and a carefully folded beige jumpsuit, looks like he was an Under Cover Paranormal Investigator.
Now if only you can figure out where DefianceFalcon was sleeping last night you can get on with your day.
After a hasty search you find him stuffed inside a suit of armor in the foyer.
In the process of getting him out of the armor you find a bottle of mineral water and a KD LANG cd, OH SNAP! DefianceFalcon was Teh Ghey!
What a crazy night for you all it has been.
between yesterday and today there's only six of you left, no really ... check for yourself:

aaroncc.................Stoner
Aidentas.................freak..........................Scared To Death............The Occultist
assbastard.............Bully
Context..................Goth
DefianceFalcon......Hippie.........................Murdered.......................Teh Ghey
Eru.........................Exchange Student
evilmarshmallow.....geek
itsthatoddguy..........loner
Misanthrope...........Jock............................Lynched.........................Insomniac
sociology_boy........Class President...........Sacrificed......................UCPI

I posted this a few hours early partially so that the survivors can get a little extra time in and partially so that I can catch up on my sleep.

Day 2 ends at 9pm Sunday evening PST.
Break a leg.

-_- said @ 6:32pm GMT on 23rd Jun

Damnit, did it again.
Must sleep.
Post your votes as a reply to this comment. Please do not reply to any comment but your own. This day ends on Sunday at 9pm PST.

Context said @ 7:16pm GMT on 23rd Jun
*** I vote for assbastard

He just seems... pushy. And he's a jerk who keeps punching everyone.

***

itsthatoddguy said @ 12:23pm GMT on 24th Jun
***
I vote to lynch assbastard.

We don't have much to go on... so I've just got to vote for you to stay alive.
***

Eru said @ 9:21pm GMT on 23rd Jun
***
I vote for itsthatoddguy

Though that may change soon depending on what people say.
***

assbastard said @ 2:24am GMT on 24th Jun
I vote for itsthatoddguy. Todd's too quiet, and I think Eru's right about the satanists lying low. BE CLEANZEDUH IN THE NAYUM OF JEAYZUSS!

its that odd guy said @ 12:18pm GMT on 24th Jun
***
OOC

*ahem* Common mistake, my name isn't Todd. My s/n reads: Its that odd guy, not Its tha todd guy.
***

evilmarshmallow said @ 9:26am GMT on 24th Jun
***
I vote for assbastard, but I don't really have much reason yet, so that could change.

And sorry for not participating more, I was at a LAN party all weekend.
***

aaroncc said @ 11:43am GMT on 24th Jun
***
well... every here is either satanist, the chicken ghost, or an occult...

Saying I don't know my allies says I'm the ghost. Saying I do might suggest I'm a stanist.

loner or bully. bullies tend to be scared and this one says he's scared of Jesus. The loner hasn't talked much.

may as well kill the quiet one itsthatoddguy
***

-_- said @ 5:59pm GMT on 24th Jun [Score:1 Informative]
Oh but the contention was rife this fine day in the haunted house.
What with all the deaths in the last 24 hours it was reallyhard to come to a consensus on who to lynch today.
In fact everyone was so busy arguing over who to lynch today that they completely missed that the sun had gone down without them ever breaking the deadlock that had them stumped.
It seemed that Assbastard and itsthatoddguy had both made it through the day unscathed .... so as everyone trudged to their rooms exchanging suspicious sleepy glances they were thinking deeply on what horrors the night might hold, for the dark is the realm of Ghost and dark works ... and in this house that aint no jive!

Stripmall Satanist and The Ghost of Mr. Chicken please PM me your night actions.

Day 3 will begin at 9am monday morning PST and end 1pm Tuesday PST.

do any players have problems with these times?
If so, I will be happy to attempt accommodating you needs.

Sleep well ... BWAAAHAHAHAHAHahahahahahaHAHAHAHAHAahahahaha...

-_- said @ 6:00pm GMT on 24th Jun
And in case it's not obvious...

DAY 2 HAS ENDED

assbastard said @ 6:56pm GMT on 24th Jun
***
Holy Jesus, Lord almighty, thank you! I was not expecting the lynch votes would cancel each other out! This is a very good thing for us, assuming that the ghost of mr. chicken scares the heck out of one of the satanists tonight, and assuming that foreign kid was right and there are only two satanists out there. aaroncc, oddguy and marshmallow are my 3 picks for satanists, because they're real quiet-like, and quiet minds are the devil's playthings.
***

assbastard said @ 6:58pm GMT on 24th Jun
***
Wait just a minute! Face used the singular of strip mall satanist up there, so that might mean there's only ONE satanist out there!
***

assbastard said @ 9:03pm GMT on 23rd Jun
***
Okay, there are obviously forces at work here that I cannot beat up for the Lord, and I am frightened by that. But, like any good bully, I shall not back down in my relentless fight to out these satanists, so I shall call upon the LORD HIMSELF to smite these heretics!
*gets down on his knees and folds his hands*
Father God and Jesus' name I pray, please let these satanists slip up somehow and show themselves, so that I may wet willy them into submission. Lord, do give me the wettest saliva and the most ear-canal-shaped pinky finger so that I may do your bidding. Thank you Lord, in Jesus' name I pray, amen.
***

Eru said @ 9:18pm GMT on 23rd Jun
***

Shot at 1969-12-31

Oh snap!

Well today it seems there's good and bad news. But most of it is bad. Here's my guess as to what happened last night. The satanists killed the class president, I guess that's a pretty obvious target. The dead chicken ghost thing (vigilante) scared Aidentas to death. And the cult leader tried to turn a a satanist gay, but got taken from behind (but not in the way he was expecting).

It seems it's about as bad as it could get, but there's still hope. Going by what I've seen from spectating other games as well as a description of end-game rules courtesy of Capnsilver. I think we can safely say that there are only 2 mafia people in this game. According to Capnsilver endgame comes when there's an equal number of mafia and townspeople and according to other people there's supposed to be 25% mafia in a game. So, if there were 3 satanists we would have lost on night 1 (ouch) so I believe that there is only 2, though I can't be 100%.

Going on that theory then, we still have a good chance of winning despite last night's crushing losses. But today we have to be very very careful of who we lynch. If we lynch a townsperson and the vigilante kills a townsperson then we're done, game over.

I'm thinking that the best thing we can do today is to try and slow things down in order for us to have more time to ferret the satanists out. Now, I'm not sure about this, so I'd like some feedback. But I think the vigilante may want to not kill someone, at least for the next night. especially if we lynch a townie during the day. If that happens then the vigilante will have a 2/3 chance of hitting a satanist. In other words, they'll have more chance of hitting a townie than not.

Anyway, the question remains, who do we lynch today? I'm pretty much evenly split between assbastard and context. As far as I'm concerned either one of them is just as likely as the other to be a satanist, especially the way they've been sniping at eachother. However after last night's slaughter my guess is that the satanists are laying low in the hopes that we will continue to to kill eachother off and hand them the win.

So... tonight I propose we lynch either evilmarshmellow or itsthatoddguy who both seem to be hanging back and playing cautiously, rather than attempting to help the town.
***

assbastard said @ 9:40pm GMT on 23rd Jun
***
Your math hurts my brain, nerdlinger. But I wrote it out on paper and you're right. I haven't heard todd say anything other than screw jocks, so he's too quiet for my tastes. I'll pray on it.
***

assbastard said @ 9:24pm GMT on 23rd Jun
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Context, you've been gunning for me from the beginning. Look, I'm living my life for the Lord, and I'm as against these satanists as you seem to be. I don't know if I can trust you, since you're all gothy and such, but there's only 6 of us left and I don't want to die at the hands of these satanists, or at the hands of the 5 of the rest of you. I'm saving myself for marriage, and I don't want to die without having met that special girl yet. Now let's get these sicko satanists before we get sacrificed!
***

Context said @ 9:50pm GMT on 23rd Jun
*** if you think about it, Satanists are just a sect of Christians. I think it's a front. ***

assbastard said @ 2:20am GMT on 24th Jun
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They're a perverted sect that goes against all the teachings of the bible, and have blood orgies and sacrifice animals and people. Jesus did NOT condone that!
***

itsthatoddguy said @ 12:21pm GMT on 24th Jun
***
Appy polly logies, I was without a computer for a couple days... it was more difficult than normal to be active. ^_^
***

assbastard said @ 12:16pm GMT on 24th Jun
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Marshy, let me try and talk you out of stringing me up today. I may be loud, boorish and give the occasional purple nurple, but I'm as christian as the day is long, and I'm not a satanist. If the foreign kid's right, then there's 2 satanists out there, and if you lynch me, you'll be down to 3 townies and the game'll be over by daybreak after the satanists take out another townie. It's safer to lynch the quiet guy that you just KNOW is hiding something than it is to lynch the outspoken guy that's fighting to save the lives of the townies. Do the right thing and vote todd.

I'm assbastard the bully and I approve this message!
***

assbastard said @ 2:43pm GMT on 24th Jun
*** Oddguy,

You have a chance to go down as a hero here. If the vote's tied for both you and I to get lynched, and you're a townie, then the town automatically loses because we're both townies and the number of satanists (if Eru's right) will be equal to the number of townies, thereby making them win. If you change your vote, only you will be killed, and we have a shot at night with the vigilante, however slim it may be, to get a satanist.

Of course, if you're a satanist, you're making a huge mistake by getting yourself lynched, since it'll be 3-vs-1 in favor of the town if you go down. So the smartest decision would be to vote for someone else and go down as a hero that allowed the town a chance to win.
***

Eru said @ 6:28pm GMT on 22nd Jun

Spooky!

Ok, here are my tentative suspicions. There's that that loner. You know who I'm talking about... that odd guy. That bully who's always picking on me, teasing me about my accent, the bastard!

But my biggest suspicion at this point is DefianceFalcon. If you extrapolate slightly on the teacher's death message... *adds a few brush strokes in red* And it reads "Falcon killed Teacher".

aaroncc said @ 6:31pm GMT on 22nd Jun
I like your thinking, but it's not falcon... it's the Freak. The satanists are trying to summon demons and thus won't be going by their given names.

Aidentas said @ 6:38pm GMT on 22nd Jun
Even though I'm a freak, I don't kill. I don't worship Satan. I only try to scare you all into loving me. I'm actually an honor student.

You can't get an F-. Only an idiot would write that down. I think it might've been the jock.

-_- said @ 6:49pm GMT on 22nd Jun
"Only an idiot would write that down"

Like ...... ouch.

Aidentas said @ 6:51pm GMT on 22nd Jun
...Not you the narrator. Our friendly neighborhood Satanists are the idiots. Especially the one that wrote that down.

...I have rape dollars.

assbastard/ghostbully said @ 9:23pm GMT on 22nd Jun
Pfft, sure thing, Nerdlinger. You're a satanist! FEEL THE LOVE OF CHRIST! *punch!*

Context said @ 3:44am GMT on 23rd Jun
*** it would seem that you are very forceful in your beliefs. we goths... real goths, and not these punks out for shock factor, do not believe in physical violence. we value peace, understanding, tolerance, and intelligence.

you seem to be proselytizing your beliefs through violence. and you sound like a cultist. ***

assbastard said @ 12:04pm GMT on 23rd Jun
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I'll proselytize my beliefs through violence YOU! *ATOMIC WEDGIE FOR JESUS*

...what do you want? I'm a bully. We're a curious sort that makes up for our own shortcomings by picking on others that have qualities that we wish we had. My mom *sniff* was killed in the lollercaust. Ever since then I've been on fire for Jesus, hoping to see her again one day.
***

Context said @ 2:36pm GMT on 23rd Jun
*** You are going down.***

badgerbaiter said @ 2:35am GMT on 23rd Jun
Guys.....

For fucks sake we are being stalked by Robots and you guys are playing a game......!!

What would be groovy is setting up a mini game of 5 people in one of the dorms.....

sythe said @ 3:00am GMT on 23rd Jun
Oh totally sign me up for that.

Aidentas the Freak said @ 4:50am GMT on 23rd Jun [Score:1 Good]
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Vote Count

Misanthrope the jock - 3 votes (Aidentas, assbastard, itsthatoddguy)
Aidentas the freak - 2 votes (aaroncc, DefianceFalcon)
assbastard the bully - 1 vote (Context)

Still to vote
Eru, evilmarshmallow, Misanthrope, sociology_boy

~8 hours left in Day 1.

And no, doing a vote count does not mean I'm an android. I just wanna play a game and go party at the girls' dorm, K? I'm no sythe.

***

Aidentas said @ 8:38am GMT on 23rd Jun
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Vote Count

Misanthrope the jock - 3 votes (Aidentas, assbastard, itsthatoddguy, Eru, evilmarshmallow)
Aidentas the freak - 3 votes (aaroncc, DefianceFalcon, Misanthrope)
assbastard the bully - 1 vote (Context)

Still to vote
sociology_boy

~4 hours left in Day 1.

I just realized we're playing this game with a cult leader. Could be good practice, guys.

***

Aidentas said @ 8:39am GMT on 23rd Jun
Misanthrope has 5.

Human error.

Misanthrope said @ 6:47am GMT on 23rd Jun
I'm most definitely the insomniac. You can test this out by having the vigilante try and kill me tonight. So unless you want one way to save your sorry asses dead, you better find another target.

Aidentas said @ 8:32am GMT on 23rd Jun
Lies.

-_- said @ 7:12pm GMT on 23rd Jun
Not.

Aidentas said @ 5:44am GMT on 24th Jun
I'm not very good at this game.

-_- said @ 9:19am GMT on 24th Jun
Oh now, don't be so hard on yourself.

-_- said @ 5:57pm GMT on 22nd Jun
Narenschiff .... When does Day 4 end?

-_- said @ 6:21pm GMT on 22nd Jun
never mind.

verycleanteeth said @ 8:14am GMT on 23rd Jun
Yo -_-, do you care if I downmod your Sensible Scoobies post? Not hating or anything, I'd just like a simple way to keep it visually separated from the rest of the game so I don't confuse myself.

-_- said @ 8:25am GMT on 23rd Jun [Score:1 WTF]
go for it.
-1 should do it just fine.

verycleanteeth said @ 8:27am GMT on 23rd Jun
<3

badgerbaiter said @ 8:28am GMT on 23rd Jun
I thin this is fair enough!!

Already tres difficile

carrotboi said @ 5:57pm GMT on 22nd Jun
I knew a mutant should have come out then have them protected instead of snowfox even though snowfox did give us an android I don't like the looks of this at all. Unless we have three mutants the nymph is all we have left for genuine confirmation.

-_- said @ 6:18pm GMT on 22nd Jun
We were told that there are "a few of these" as regards the mutants.
The way I learned it "a few" means 3 or more.
One ( or "a") is one.
"A couple" is two.
"A few" is 3-5 basically.
That's the extent of my learnin in this here department though.

The Mutants only pick up on who is an android ... not what job they have.
Losing 2 mutants like this is troublesome though.

I recommend that we discuss asking the Nympho to come out of hiding while she can since she's the most powerful investigator.
This would mean having the protectors switch attention away from snowfox and onto the Nympho though.
Perhaps we can take a statistical risk and specify that any protectors in the bottom half of the player list protect snowfox and any protectors in the top half of the list protect the Nympho.
Any other thoughts?

penisinface said @ 6:25pm GMT on 22nd Jun
I still think its too early. we have 3 protectors at most and probably two investigators. unless the investigators have a good list of 'droids its not a feasible plan until later in the game.

-_- said @ 6:30pm GMT on 22nd Jun
We've already lost 2 such list irretrievably.
Shall we lose another?
Shall we lose them all?
We should consider protecting the Nympho in the open while she/he seeks out the androids.

penisinface said @ 6:28pm GMT on 22nd Jun
also I think he said there's "more than one" mutant. which could imply only two.

-_- said @ 6:36pm GMT on 22nd Jun
I went back and read it ... you're right.

We need to protect the Nympho NOW !!

aaroncc said @ 9:56pm GMT on 22nd Jun
(I feel it's important enough to post twice)

if the cult is a real threat then we cannot reveal the nympho. That would open our best (and possibly last) investigator up to an unknown (and quite possibly malevolent) entity.

If we are worried about the cult we can let the nympho search out the RCG and, once found, we can decide what to do with him/her.

If we are afraid of the nympho dying, then consider possibly a worse case: the nympho being used against the town.

If I fear using a repetitive sentence structure, I should not post so late at night.

and so I ask you face, (I'll go with you on this) which bad scenario is worse: the nympho dead, or the nympho under control of the enemy?

badgerbaiter said @ 12:49am GMT on 23rd Jun
Or the Nmpho stays hidden until we know more about this cult....?

snowfox said @ 5:18am GMT on 23rd Jun
It depends on how many protectors we have. We can only out the nympho if we have more than one. Since we have no way of knowing rigth now, we'll have to wait.

Leave the cult, nympho and protectors alone for now. Let's focus on rooting out another android today. It will give us better leads and more info to work on. When we finally have something to go on (or are out of time to wait) then we start end game stuff.

-_- said @ 7:49am GMT on 23rd Jun
There are high probabillity ways to protect you both.
but....
I would rather use the protectors on an investigator than on a vanilla townie .... and at this point that's what the Bishop is, a vanilla townie.

penisinface said @ 10:03am GMT on 23rd Jun
we need to find a way to see if the nymph is next on the hitlist. any other targets out there that would bemore obvious? do the androids know what the classes are or are they just guessing?

-_- said @ 7:11pm GMT on 23rd Jun
It kind of looks like they are guessing.
Rainbow Randolf they probably killed on the recommendation of sythe.
KylemcBitch and Alacron both had lonely remote jobs that fell under the heading of "colony infrastructure" (terraforming and Energy production) ... in your typical SF Thriller these would be some "red shirt" jobs that help the monster establish a foot hold.
Kyle did make that remark about the large tumors though ... that was dumb.
I have no idea what Alacron might have done but I remember telling him that if this game were based on the movie "Aliens" he would be at the top of my list of "job title" suspects.... I guess there's a slim chance the Androids jumped on that remark, but I doubt it.

So yeah, guessing.

Context said @ 8:24pm GMT on 23rd Jun
Sounds to me as if you have the ear of the androids.

-_- said @ 8:16am GMT on 24th Jun
Not on purpose, and no more so than any of us most likely.

penisinface said @ 6:27pm GMT on 22nd Jun
what about this "awesome club" tat? it seems like this "cult" thing may be a reality but I feel its a red herring. its probably something he got while he was drunk.

-_- said @ 6:39pm GMT on 22nd Jun
I'm going to take the tattoo as a clue about a cult.
A desire to continue living necessitates treating it as a real threat at this point.

bruceski said @ 7:04pm GMT on 22nd Jun
I'm inclined to agree.

I'm inexperienced with this game, but I've been reading the wiki Sythe linked in desperation. It's not too complete but the idea of a cult fits what we've seen so far. There are various cult dynamics, but I think we can narrow them down because Narren said it was balanced. Now, let's look at the balance.

If we ignore the replicant and the RCG, then things appear balanced, based on the number of mutants/protectors, androids, et cetera. The Bishop gives a slight town advantage, being able to be confirmed innocent, but nothing too powerful, since keeping her strategy means tying up a protector (likely more).

Now let's add the replicant. This guy's a wild card. If the androids manage to find him, he could either side with them, get a confirmed android kill, tell us who contacted him and kill a random guy, really anything. I think that the plesant idea of completely being a double-agent might twist this towards an android advantage, but given the coincidence (the replicant doesn't know he is one (after all he has to confirm with Narren if he gets PMed) so he can't drop hints) and the variation of personalities in this game, I'd put him no farther towards androids than the bishop is towards town.

Now we come to the RCG. If he's able to give PMs, that's a HUGE advantage to town, especially once he has contact with a mutant (suggested by the tattoo on the deceased.) The only way I can see the RCG being in play and being considered balanced is if he's equally dangerous to both sides.

I'm not good at analyzing posts. I distract too easily. I'd like to request that someone who is good work off the assumption that Randolf and Snowfox were taken into a cult, and see if you can turn up any other clues. I'm not suggesting we lynch the first name that comes up in common, but I believe that if we ignore this line of questioning, we will have lost before we even realize we were losing. I don't think anybody who considers themselves true blue townies right now can claim victory guilt-free if we win by all being turned to a third party.

snowfox said @ 5:31am GMT on 23rd Jun
Don't trust Sythe. The best thing an android could do is convince you to chop off your own arm. The fact the an android insists it is a dangerous cult is reason enough to assume it is not.

For now.

Context said @ 5:36am GMT on 23rd Jun [Score:1 Insightful]
Unless it is equally dangerous to both sides. Which, according to game mechanics seen elsewhere, seems to be the case.

-_- said @ 9:16am GMT on 23rd Jun
She's such a transparent liar isn't she?

snowfox said @ 10:16am GMT on 23rd Jun
The way in which it is dangerous to townies is that the awesome club may include androids if the rcg doesn't luck out straight off and find himself a mutant which he can use to find androids to kill or new townies to invite to the club (thus widening a circle of confirmed innocents).

aaroncc said @ 9:47pm GMT on 22nd Jun
if the cult is a real threat then we cannot reveal the nympho. That would open our best (and possibly last) investigator up to an unknown (and quite possibly malevolent) entity.

If we are worried about the cult we can let the nympho search out the RCG and, once found, we can decide what to do with him/her.

-_- said @ 6:42am GMT on 23rd Jun
You want the Nympo to stay hidden for now huh?
You have your reasons and snow fox has hers, but the rest of the townies need our last investigator(and the only one who can determine secret roles) to stay alive and tell us who is who.

Undercover Nympho:
no protection.
no way to share info.
androids want him/her dead.
cultist want to convert him/her.

Nympho Revealed:
Protected (possibly to the detriment of snowfoxes protected status)
Can share info with town (more valuable to us than snowfox)
Safe from androids.
Might not be safe from cult.

The androids are playing better than us thus far.
They've taken out both mutants and a mason.
Our only remaining special resource is the Nympho and the Protectors.
As time goes on the cult will compromise our protectors and possibly the Nympho.
The game dynamics are different enough this time that the "end game" scenarios are coming into play already.
We haven't just lost 3 townies to the androids we also have the Cult Leader and 2 other converted townies to contend with.
That means that the number of actual townies has decreased by 5, not 3.

But that's all obvious isn't it.
What might not be obvious to everyone is your motivation for arguing that the Nympho remain undercover and un-protected while both the cult and the androids are searching feverishly for him/her.
I on the other hand never took you off my list of people I suspect of being androids, so your actions don't surprise me.

Misanthrope said @ 6:50am GMT on 23rd Jun [Score:1 Insightful]
also protecting snowfox really doesn't have a priority as she is just a conformed innocent. The androids don't have a real reason to go after her at the moment.

-_- said @ 7:52am GMT on 23rd Jun
EXACTLY!

snowfox should/could be safe from the androids until at least when the RCG is dead.
At this point she's a vanilla townie and we need to protect our last investigator from dying as our mutants have.
This is of utmost importance for the town.

HoboSpice said @ 8:49am GMT on 23rd Jun
Just a thought, but what if protection doesn't keep someone from being sucked into the cult and the cult is bad?

We'd protect the investigator from the androids, but the cult would have lunch being served to them on a platter by the lot of us.

If the nympho stays hidden, they're at least protected via being unknown from both

-_- said @ 9:19am GMT on 23rd Jun
Agreed.

-_- said @ 10:10am GMT on 24th Jun
FUCK IT, don't listen to me, Narrenschiff has already come out and said that the Awesome Club is on the side of the townies for no apparent reason other than to protect them and snowfox from lynchings.
Any GM that does that kind of shit is incompetent and ruins the game in my opinion.
But like I said, don't listen to me ... do what ever you want (s long as it fits Narrenschiffs plans for this game)

Aidentas said @ 6:40pm GMT on 22nd Jun [Score:1 Insightful]
Why would Schiff give us a red herring?

-_- said @ 6:48pm GMT on 22nd Jun
Exactly.

aaroncc said @ 9:50pm GMT on 22nd Jun
because they are tasty with lemon and white wine?

CapnSilver said @ 10:36pm GMT on 22nd Jun
Because it's amusing to watch us all running aronud screaming "WTF!!?!?!!!"

valen85 said @ 10:27pm GMT on 22nd Jun
I vote juju

juju said @ 1:49am GMT on 23rd Jun
<3

ah, nostalgia...

sythe said @ 4:15am GMT on 23rd Jun
How could he know you're a mobster? He's got no proof! I say we string him up!

CapnSilver said @ 10:38pm GMT on 22nd Jun
Awesome Club!

CapnSilver said @ 10:40pm GMT on 22nd Jun
I wonder... did randolf interview the people he investigated?
Maybe? I dunno.

bruceski said @ 10:50pm GMT on 22nd Jun
Well, he never interviewed Sythe, and he's the most likely way Snowfox got her info.

Or he's chatting with the nympho, but I prefer to get false inferences from the links I can see.

CapnSilver said @ 10:52pm GMT on 22nd Jun
Why do I get the feeling we're going to be quite fucked, quite soon?

Context said @ 4:04am GMT on 23rd Jun [Score:1 Insightful]
Because we're all bent over a table, and the nervous ass-sweat is providing lubrication?

badgerbaiter said @ 10:44am GMT on 24th Jun
^^^^Tagline

Context said @ 9:47pm GMT on 24th Jun
I would be.... honored.

*sniffle*

badgerbaiter said @ 11:13pm GMT on 22nd Jun
I suppose now the town has to decide if the Cult is pro or anti town.

If we decide that it is anti-town the first thing we need to do is Lynch Snowfox.

I would like Snow for to give more information about the cult that she must be in......

CapnSilver said @ 11:29pm GMT on 22nd Jun
Must is too strong a word, I feel.

badgerbaiter said @ 11:53pm GMT on 22nd Jun
I see the evidence building up....
The tattoo and the way that Snowfox was able to pinpoint another player from nothing.

There is something going on behind the scenes,
We have to decide if it is a pro or anti town movement.

Context said @ 4:00am GMT on 23rd Jun
If there's a Cult, I can guarantee it is pro-Cult. Which is, of course, anti-town and android.

snowfox said @ 5:32am GMT on 23rd Jun
I share your concern about the cult being dangerous, but I think we are in greater danger of trusting an android and turning on an ally. Until we know for sure a potential cult HAS formed and IS dangerous, we should leave it be and hunt people we KNOW are enemies: androids.

Those human-hating, grease-munchers need to be taught a lesson and I'm just the computational masterpiece to do it.

Aidentas said @ 5:43am GMT on 23rd Jun
If the Awesome Club is not a cult, than what is it?

Aidentas said @ 5:43am GMT on 23rd Jun
then

Human error.

Context said @ 5:47am GMT on 23rd Jun
I'll agree that you are both computational and a masterpiece.

The concern I have is that the cult is going to continue to get stronger, while the town gets weaker.

One method we could choose to employ is to allow the androids, who are obviously more organized and informed than us deal with the Cult, if, in fact it is dangerous to your more violent counterparts.

The conundrum is this... is the Bishop able to be converted to the Cult? It wouldn't make sense in the 'fluff' but it wouldn't make sense for the Androids to be able to be converted, either, seeing as their positronic, logical brains do not wash as easily.

If androids are able to be converted, and I were the RCG, you'd be my first choice, especially after you were 100% trusted by the townspeople. We can see, for certain, that there is a Cult... but what is the function? And what are they capable of?

-_- said @ 6:53am GMT on 23rd Jun
To me you are once again behaving in a manner that dictates you have a dual role.
At this point your "other role" could only be cultist.
The Bishop (though an android) likely can be converted to cult because the Bishop is "townie in spirit".
Gotten any tattoos lately?
This ,I think, is why the rules mention that someone might want to lynch you twice .... because of the possibility of cult contamination.

I submit that a compromised Nympho would not be as dangerous to the town as a compromised "only confirmed townie" can be.
We should request the Nympho come forward and that the protectors focus on him/her.
Though I have alreay posted a gamblers method for protecting them both ... perhaps we could try that.

snowfox said @ 7:47am GMT on 23rd Jun
The cult fear is just android propaganda started by Sythe and perpetuated by other androids.

badgerbaiter said @ 8:05am GMT on 23rd Jun
Then what is it?
You seem to know more than you are letting on....

-_- said @ 8:34am GMT on 23rd Jun
She just lying to you right here.

snowfox said @ 10:11am GMT on 23rd Jun
You keep making me think you're an android. THERE IS NO CULT. It is the awesome club and it is JUST FOR PLAYERS TO PM EACHOTHER. THat is the only power it confers. If it includes... say... a mutant, or the nympho, then it also has the power to tell if people are innocent or android.

That's all there is to it.

-_- said @ 4:39pm GMT on 23rd Jun
Going off your track record with truth I would have to say LIAR !!!

Bladesmith Dualscimitars said @ 11:49pm GMT on 23rd Jun
Yep, that seals it for me, such a fact would be completely overbalancing in the towns favor, as awesome as that would be, I find it difficult that Narren would stack the odds so much in the favor of the town this way.

Yes, you are anti-android, you can't convert them, so they are a threat to you.

So you keep the town focused on the androids so you can keep converting the rest of town, as once that happens, cult wins? Face it, you're both anti-town and anti-android.

Great, you got us Sythe dead, good thing too, since we already lost 3 specials to them. But this is akin to the WW killing the Mafia in the last game, once all the mafia die, the WW effectively wins. I thought the lack of such a role, in a game with this many roles was weird, at best, but seeing now, it's just a group effort this time.

Context said @ 3:48am GMT on 24th Jun
Narrenschiff has made some comments hinting that the cult is benign, and upmodded a post by DefianceFalcon in which Falcon said that the Club may not follow the rules seen elsewhere. This would lead me to believe that the Awesome Club isn't necessarily harmful.

-_- said @ 8:34am GMT on 24th Jun
If Narrenschiff is actually doing that this game has bigger problems than I had previously suspected.

Should we all just vote the way the GM tells us to and see where he's leading us?

Which side is he rooting for with this gambit?

There is no such thing as a balanced game when a GM takes an active role in quelling speculation.

I'm sticking with my vote for two reasons:
1) I haven't seen these things you speak of and doubt your motivations.... As I have already stated elsewhere I feel there is a high probability that you are part of the Awesome Cult.
2) If the GM is really playing this poorly(cheating and playing favorites) then lynch me and get me the hell out of here while the narrator tells the rest of you how to behave and you just walk through his prepared (or preferred) story line.

Snowfox knows I'm town.
And when you lynch me you will know too.
Do whatever you want though.... or what you're told.

graham said @ 9:36am GMT on 24th Jun
I gotta agree with you on them points.

I don't think lynching snowfox or you just yet would be wise to the game... there has to be more androids out there, possibly THOSE OF YOU WHO AREN'T DOING JACK-ALL.

It's just a matter of weeding them out.

-_- said @ 10:11am GMT on 24th Jun [Score:-1 Flamebait]
FUCK IT, don't listen to me, Narrenschiff has already come out and said that the Awesome Club is on the side of the townies for no apparent reason other than to protect them and snowfox from lynchings.
Any GM that does that kind of shit is incompetent and ruins the game in my opinion.
But like I said, don't listen to me ... do what ever you want (s long as it fits Narrenschiffs plans for this game)

snowfox said @ 9:50am GMT on 24th Jun
I don't. I know your cult speculation to be lies started by Sythe. I know this for a fact. If you are an android, it's good to lynch you. If you are not, you are still causing problems and decresing our odds of winning.

You gotta go.

-_- said @ 10:12am GMT on 24th Jun
Do whatever you want ... if they'll let you (the RCG and the GM that is).

Aidentas said @ 8:57am GMT on 23rd Jun
That sounds like something Tony Snow would say...

Tony Snow. Snowfox. Oh...

-_- said @ 7:54am GMT on 23rd Jun
You're not going to convince anyone SANE that lynching snowfox for spotting an android is a good idea .... well, unless they're an android that is.

sythe said @ 1:36am GMT on 23rd Jun [Score:4 Informative]

Player Update

(Key: town kill, android kill, 'sploded)
(-_-) - Plastic Surgeon
aaroncc – Waste Disposal Expert
Aidentas – Water Sanitation Expert
PLANT FOOD Alacron – (Mercer)
badgerbaiter – Badger Baiter
Bob Llama – Meat Cloning Expert
bruceski - Architect
Caffeine – Bartender and Bar Owner
CapnSilver – Game Shop Owner
cardinal – Concert Pianist
carrotboi – Hydroponic Vegetable Farmer
cb361 – Total Bastard the Second
Context – Retired English Teacher
DefianceFalcon - Anarchist
dualscimitars - Bladesmith
eightysix – Mathematician
endopol - Meteorologist
evilmarshmallow – Confectioner
graham – Convenience Store Owner and Clerk
HoboSpice – Melange Tycoon
itsthatoddguy – Strange Fellow
Kimota - Composer
EXTRA CRISPY kylemcBitch - (Mutant)
SELF LOBOTOMY logistics_wf9 - (Innocent Settler)
Misanthrope - Republican
NakedTS - Nudist
ogdredp0ski - Slacker
owleyes – Optometrist
penisinface – Straightedge Kid
Philistine – Retired Gym Teacher
POPPOPFIZZFIZZ Rainbow Randolf – (Mutant / Cultist)
RecnaMoruen - Novelist
saranated – Food Storage Specialist
shiney things - Jeweler
SiryumYum - Cook
LYNC..err Snowfox – (Bishop)
sociology_boy – Upstart Priest
VERY FLAT sythe - (Soulless Android)
v21 – Rich Vegetable Juice Tycoon
verycleanteeth - Dentist

Links to previous days:
Day 0
Day 1
Day 2
Day 3
Day 4

CapnSilver said @ 1:41am GMT on 23rd Jun
Even in death, you're just pushing for this cult idea.
Quit it

sythe said @ 1:52am GMT on 23rd Jun [Score:1 Underrated]
I'm not pushing for it, I'm only stating facts. Ask Narrenschiff. I'm staying the hell out of the game like a good little dead person should.

snowfox said @ 10:00am GMT on 24th Jun
Capn, I suspect you of being an adroid and believe me when I say I consider you as dangerous a player as you were a sadistic GM. However, I am quite certain -_- is an android, so for now I will leave you out of this until I can better decide what you're up to.

graham said @ 11:05am GMT on 24th Jun
*sigh*

verycleanteeth said @ 8:10am GMT on 23rd Jun
Thanks for doing this sythe, even though you may be "very flat".

Narrenschiff said @ 8:57am GMT on 23rd Jun [Score:1 Informative]
That would be "Awesome Club", not "Cultist".

sythe said @ 11:39am GMT on 23rd Jun
allrighty, name change noted.

Dioxin said @ 2:09pm GMT on 24th Jun
Not really worth noting since that's what it was originally called.

Narrenschiff said @ 9:16pm GMT on 24th Jun
ATTENTION DAY 4 IS OVER SEND ME YOUR NIGHT ACTIONS

Narrenschiff said @ 8:25pm GMT on 24th Jun
*sigh*

Well, first of folks, I'd like to apologize for the nasty events of Day 4. I should not have allowed face to piss me off. Face, Hobospice, I'm sorry that you don't like the way I run things around here. I do my best.

That said, the role of the Really Charismatic Guy was never supposed to be in doubt. It was, from day 0, supposed to be aligned with the townies. If there were more than three factions, I would have said so.

Why did I let the suspicious arguing go on? Well, I try to practice hands off GMing as much as possible. Why did I start dropping hints? Well, once again, the alignment of the RCG was never supposed to be in doubt, and things were really getting out of hand.

Finally, why did I kill off two townies and oust snowfox from the Awesome Club? It goes something like this: the androids convinced me that the RCG was a character that unbalanced the game for a town win. The trouble is, it doesn't quite do that. It's not a cult. It's an Awesome Club-- anyone can join, including androids. No, sythe was not killed because he was denied access to the club.

Anyhow, I killed off a couple townies because face showed his pm, endopol wasn't talking enough. I also sort of ruined a beautiful lynch night for the androids by clarifying the role of the club. I revealed the nature of the club because a number of you were clamoring for a straight up explanation and well, you guys were supposed to know that the club was run by a pro-townie anyway.

Hobospice has officially resigned, and I'm going to end the day earlier than my previous extension and call it fair because he's leading the lynch vote at the moment. Hobospice was the Nexus-8 android. You guys sure got lucky. He did stick his neck out, though.

Day 4 is over. Everyone send me your night actions. Day 5 begins Monday June 25th 6pm PST, or whenever I get all of your night actions. I apologize again for the game disruption, and I assure you that it will not happen again. I just gotta say though: Face, you are one crazed fucker. That is all.

I hope the rest of you can continue playing normally.

cb361 said @ 8:49pm GMT on 24th Jun
The first few days of mafia are heavy on the townies. They're even more heavy on the big egos, who drop like loud flies.

-_- said @ 4:18pm GMT on 23rd Jun
I vote to LYNCH SNOWFOX
She can no longer be trusted.
She admits to being co-opted by the Awesome Club.
She admits to not being in control of her own play actions and comes forward telling everything because she was told to in a PM.
And she's trying to convince everyone to accept the Awesome Club as friends with the same venom and bullying that she was using to try to convince everyone that there was no Awesome Club ... AFTER BEING CO-OPTED BY IT!!!
Let's lynch her again, and this time let's do it right!

HoboSpice said @ 5:40am GMT on 23rd Jun
I don't know what to think anymore.

First there's a cult, then there's no cult, and now there's maybe a cult again.

Can we as a group decide how we're going to handle this so I know what to do? I want to help, but I don't want to start throwing things out there against what everyone else thinks this time.

Context said @ 5:50am GMT on 23rd Jun
POPPOPFIZZFIZZ Rainbow Randolf – (Mutant / Cultist)

There is, quite definitively, a cult... I'm just not sure what they're capable of. It seems, though, that the Androids are at least curious about it, and were willing to listen to sythe about who to kill. That implies, to me, that they are concerned about them. So, maybe... just maybe, they'll be able to handle it, as they are more informed than we are.

evilmarshmallow said @ 6:05am GMT on 23rd Jun
I think that might actually be the best way to go about it. If we start trying to lynch cultists, then we'll have two sides of the game trying to kill people who could be townies. We can't exactly trust the androids to go after the cult, but we shouldn't exactly be lynching our own guys while trying to go after the cult either. I'm not quite exactly sure how people are converted, maybe only the cult leader can do it, and if that's the case I think we should stick to our hunt for androids and just hope that the androids can take him out.

Misanthrope said @ 6:58am GMT on 23rd Jun
So there is a cult and most likely the cult's winning condition is to be the sole surviving group, but they have to get the androids killed off and balance that with helping lynch townies. Snowfox probably is a cultist, but now that the mutant is dead, she doesn't have access to any special information, so protecting her is not a priority. With regards to the nympho, I would give them another few days to get some more people checked out and maybe then come out with a list, but don't wait until after s/he is killed by the androids. For todays vote I'm unsure, but I will reply to this when I get some ideas.

-_- said @ 9:00am GMT on 23rd Jun
If the Nympho comes forward it will be protected from the androids at least.
Apparently the protectors don't stop the Cult.
We must eliminate the cult so that it is safe for the Nympho to come forward.
Even if we kill the RCG the rules can allow for the next senior cultist to take over as cult leader and continue conversions.

LOOK AT WHAT REASONS SOMEONE MIGHT HAVE FOR NOT KILLING CULT
1)they themselves are cult.
2)um.......... they think snowfox is on their side?
3)well ... um ..... they haven't read much of the thread?
4)they themselves are cult (snowfox and her comments are a really good example of this)

THE CULT MUST BE KILLED OFF ASAP
Unless of course you all think the Cult doesn't intend to win.

snowfox said @ 10:24am GMT on 23rd Jun
You just want to kill the strongest townie group, then out the specials so the androids have an easy win.

I am now quite sure you're an android, and if you're not you're nothing but a hinderence to the town.

-_- said @ 10:13am GMT on 24th Jun
yeah ..... whatever.

snowfox said @ 7:29am GMT on 23rd Jun
ATTENTION EVERYONE!

I am in contact with the really charismatic guy. I am part of the Awesome Club. We are a group of townies with the power to PM. That's it. That's all we are. We share information and strategies with eachother. The reason this is fair and balanced is that unless the RCG has a sure way of knowing your role he can accidentally invite androids into the club.

Don't cut off your own damn hand. The Awesome Club is here to help you. Trying to kill us off or expose VITAL townie specials is madness and it will definitely make us lose.

REMEBER IT WAS SYTHE WHO STARTED THIS CULT NONSENSE. He's a filthy android trying to trick you. The more you buy into this bullshit, the more they laugh at us.

The Awesome club is the reason I knew to kill Sythe.

Bob LLama said @ 7:48am GMT on 23rd Jun

Sythe was a dirty stinkin' android

Sythe said that droids couldn't be cultists. You are a cultist, therefor he was a lying droid.

You're a cultist. Self-admitted, sure. But that doesn't make you any less suspicious. Sure you threw us a bone with Sythe, but maybe the droids are a threat to you too?

Uh... Stuff. You're a droid AND a cultist. I dunno.

-_- said @ 8:23am GMT on 23rd Jun
The Cult has lost the abillity to find new androids when they lost Rainbow Randolf last night.

The Bishop is a townie in spirit.
This reads to me as the Cult can convert her since a cult is a spiritual matter.
The "bad" androids on the other hand kill the cultist as soon as they show up on their doorstep clutching copies of the Awesome Club Weekly.

The Droids want the Cult dead more than we do ... because to them there is no equivocation .
The Cult is a human thing.
The Cult HAS TO wipe out the androids.
The Cult can PM.

The Cult is THE BORG, it doesn't matter that they were once townies.

As far as I'm concerned a self admitted cultist is the same as a self admitted android.

But hey ... don't listen to me , sythe and snowfox have both told you not to over the course of the last few days.

snowfox said @ 10:13am GMT on 23rd Jun
You're a fucking android, aren't you?

	bruceski said @ 10:26am GMT on 23rd Jun
	bruceski said @ 10:36am GMT on 23rd Jun let's try again... A fucking android? If this one breaks too I'll stop.

-_- said @ 8:13am GMT on 23rd Jun
Well, thank you for confirming my suspicions.

Now what do we know from this?

Now that the Awesome club has lost Rainbow Randolf they are not able to spot androids and they ARE BACK TO JUST TRYING TO CONVERT US ALL WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT.

The Protectors do not protect against the cultist (unless snow fox was converted before we lynched her ... highly unlikely, and the GM would have mentioned the tattoo).

If the Protectors can't stop the cult then only lynching will .... other wise the town WILL be taken over by the cult.

The Cult is allowed to PM so they are a force to be reckoned with ...especially for the Androids, once the Cult makes up something like half of the remaining townies they will be nearly unstoppable without a full truce between androids and humans.

Right now the only cultist are the RCG and snowfox.

Those are the facts as I see them.
I have given my word to vote as snowfox tells me to.
Her being in the cult may change that, but only if a majority of people tell me so really.
It's up to the rest of you guys to figure out what to do with these observations.

Aidentas said @ 8:23am GMT on 23rd Jun
A 3rd cultist might exist.

-_- said @ 8:30am GMT on 23rd Jun
You are right .
3 Days and 3 Nights= 3 conversions = 4 Cultist total.
Subtract Rainbow Randolf and you have 3 Cultist.
3 it is.

And snowfox is one of them.

badgerbaiter said @ 8:24am GMT on 23rd Jun
I happen to agree,
I think that leaving the cult because a member of the cult has asked us to is a risky strategy.

I think that we were not meant to find out about the cult for a few days, then there would have been a bombshell and we would have had to rethink the game plan.

Unfortunately they overplayed their hand and I believe that Snowfox gave away too much information and was a little too sure.

I think that we could nip the Cult in the bud and if the game is balanced, the Town has a massive advantage just from this point of view. Snowfox only has the advantage of being a trusted player.

I am beginning to think that she has been compromised.

-_- said @ 8:33am GMT on 23rd Jun
YOU'RE BEGINNING TO THINK ?

snowfox said @ 10:22am GMT on 23rd Jun
I've given you all the information now. I couldn't before because we were forbidden by Narrenschiff and I was forbidden by the RCG. I am revealing the Awesome Club and all it does now because I have received a PM instructing me to do so.

The androids are just screwing with you and making you all paranoid, trying to divert you and get you to kill people who ARE NOT YOUR ENEMIES.

I am just like every other townie only I know a group of people who are for sure innocent and that group used to include Rainbow, which is how we found Sythe.

Of course, you guys listened to the android, killed Rainbow, and now we're down one more mutant. Only an android would want the Awesome Club gone. It is an advantage to the townies so long as we do not accidentally invite androids.

badgerbaiter said @ 10:44am GMT on 23rd Jun [Score:1 Informative]
Point of fact:

The town was not involved with the murder of Randolf,
That was Android Activity.

verycleanteeth said @ 10:49am GMT on 23rd Jun [Score:1 Informative]
beat me to it.

Aidentas said @ 10:54am GMT on 23rd Jun
Yeah, OK.

I'm quite confident right now that the androids do honestly believe the existence of a cult. They listened to me. I asked for the andorids to strongly consider undertaking this turn of events.

Now, I think I feel like an idiot. A possibly justified idiot, but an idiot nonetheless.

---
The other possibility (Tony Snowfox is right) postulates that the mafia killed Rainbow Randolf directly because Sythe told them to kill him. By dying, the androids could keep up the muse of a possible cult, regardless of Narrenschiff's death notice.

It's possible that the Awesome Club is just what Snowfox says it is. The game could balance due to uncertainty by the town (and the droids) of the Awesome Club's alignment.

---
I don't know.

verycleanteeth said @ 11:14am GMT on 23rd Jun
Could we refer to the androids as androids and not mafia? I've got enough of a headache trying to follow everything in these threads without switching between space-speak and mafia-speak.

Aidentas said @ 11:28am GMT on 23rd Jun
My apologies. I was referring to the android mafia: the androids physically responsible for murder, racketeering, and extortion.

verycleanteeth said @ 10:48am GMT on 23rd Jun [Score:1 Informative]
In all fairness, we voted to lynch sythe, which you suggested. The droids are the ones who took out Rainbow Randolph.

snowfox said @ 2:04pm GMT on 23rd Jun
Sorry. You're right. I just remember there was a movement to lynch him yesterday and it was part of all this nonsense that started about the cult.

Once again, sorry.

verycleanteeth said @ 8:35am GMT on 23rd Jun
With suspicions being cast upon snowfox, the town seems to be without a central voice to rally around. Now rather than run around like chickens with our heads cut off, why don't we make a decision and stick with it? We can put it to a vote.

Vote 1 would be: Is the Awesome Club beneficent or dangerous?

if we decide they are a danger we can move onto

Vote 2: Do we deal with them now, or let the androids attempt to take care of them?

If we decide the Awesome Club is, well, Awesome, our actions are clear. We listen to snowfox.

So whaddya say everyone?

Is the Awesome Club beneficent or dangerous?

Aidentas said @ 8:42am GMT on 23rd Jun
...

We should ask Graham.

-_- said @ 8:49am GMT on 23rd Jun
why?

oh ...oh my goodness ..... that would fit .... graham as the RCG?
I was figuring him for the Nexus-8 because of his tone of play (he's something for sure I say) but it would make LOTS of sense for him to be the RCG.
And he would be so flattered as well ;)

Aidentas said @ 8:56am GMT on 23rd Jun
He's been suspiciously rather un-Graham-like during this entire game. I feel Graham is someone worth our attention.

Also, I say we rob his store.

graham said @ 2:42pm GMT on 23rd Jun [Score:1 Funny]

You can go right ahead and stay the hell outta my store, or I'll get my buddy Randal on your case

Trigger said @ 2:47pm GMT on 23rd Jun
Extra points if you can put my head on randal's body.

graham said @ 3:10pm GMT on 23rd Jun [Score:3]

We'll fuck you up, Android-hippie-bastard.

Trigger said @ 4:11pm GMT on 23rd Jun
You've made my LIFE. :D

Trigger said @ 4:14pm GMT on 23rd Jun
That's on my myspace now. :D

graham said @ 4:16pm GMT on 23rd Jun
ahahahahahahahaha....BRILLIANT!

-_- said @ 8:44am GMT on 23rd Jun
I say the Awesome Club is dangerous.

It basically just a 3rd team .. but one that PMs and grows instead of kills .. and which remains hidden (except for snowfox).
This means that as they grow they get more control over the lynch votes, swiftly it will come to a point where they are lynching one person and converting another until they get rid of all opposition and win the game.

Or are you all thinking that maybe the Cult doesn't want to win?

snowfox said @ 10:15am GMT on 23rd Jun
Of course we want ALL TOWNIES to join our club as we know they are safe! We are townies. Think of us as being like the mercers/buffalo, only we don't start out knowing eachother and the leader has to come up with his own choices/criteria for membership.

HoboSpice said @ 11:13am GMT on 23rd Jun
I'm a bit hesitant to bring this up since I appear to already be on your shitlist, however, I was thinking about game balance to help me make a decision on whether the Awesome Club was in fact on our side, or the malevolent entity sythe and others are making it out to be. I myself am now on the fence, but I think I would err on the side of caution if forced to make a decision.

Now, taking a look purely at numbers and everything, I'll let everyone else decide whether they think this is balanced or not:

9 andriods
6 mercers
8 specialists

These are the numbers that were given. Now mind you, these are based on ratios from the last game calculated by a player, and not narrenschiff, so we can't be certain these are precise. We know from the sopranos game that there were more mobsters than estimated at the end game. However, these numbers are the best I can provide at this point in time.

Now, all of the specials, barring the replicant who could swing either way, are pro-town. I'm going to assume the replicant would muder/suicide an android and count it as a good guy since that makes the numbers easier for me here. (Just making that clear ahead of time so as to not make it appear like I'm stacking the odds or anything)

So we have:

Group A - The good guys: 14
Group B - The bad guys: 9
Group C - The vanillas: 28

This would be balanced according to the ratios of our last game since it seemed to work rather well. Groups A and C are out to get B. Simple, easy. Worked before, it can work again.

So now, if the awesome club is a good thing for the town, we now have a mechanism that can turn vanillas into confirmed good guys in addition to the already present investigators.

I guess my question becomes... does that preserve the balance? Or are the numbers more suited for the emergence of a third faction?

I still can't decide based on this information because I'm tired and not in a good way right now, but I wanted to contribute something at least. My goal here is to hopefully let someone more clever than me decide whether this information helps confirm you're on our side, or against us, because I really want to know one way or another.

HoboSpice said @ 11:18am GMT on 23rd Jun
Correction: Make that Group C - The vanillas: 18

Typo. My bad.

itsthatstrangefellow said @ 11:02am GMT on 24th Jun
I really don't think we can assume that Narren is using even remotely the same ratios as the last games considering the presence of an Awesome Club. It doesn't matter whether or not the Awesome Club is pro-town or anti-town, Narren would have to modify the ratios to balance the game.

The fact is, we have no idea how many androids are out there, and maybe there are so many that we needed the potential of having a second, growing mercer group. Or perhaps the mercers are very few? Who knows? I trust Narren that he kept a good balance. He wants an interesting game to watch as much as we want one to play.

That's just the way I see it.

snowfox said @ 11:10am GMT on 24th Jun
I get the feeling there are a lot of androids. As many vocal people who seem to be androids as there are and as many more quiet people as there are... I wouldn't say half of us are androids but at least 1/3rd.

Maybe I'm just really damn paranoid though.

HoboSpice said @ 12:24pm GMT on 24th Jun
I was considering that too, like if awesome club were a good thing for the town, then bump up the number of androids to compensate for it.

I was also thinking that it was also possible that maybe the number of androids was actually decreased to make room for a third group in the game. More cover giving them less chances of being caught, etc... Would play nicely especially if the cult rule where they explode upon trying to recruit an android were to be used. Awesome club could get really really big, but the chances they'll all go BOOM! go up the more they recruit.

So I've been trying to keep every scenario possible in mind to help me make a decision and after reading everything from yesterday and today, particularily narrenschiff's input which may or may not be game-breaking, I've become convinced at this point that the awesome club is something I want to support.

The only thing I can suggest however, since you're the mouthpiece of the club, is to watch how many accusations you throw out there against the people who distrust your group. I can see at least one or two androids being among them, stirring the pot, but there have been some really convincing arguments that will certainly have swayed the regular colonists. I know this, because I believed it at first too.

I guess what I'm saying is, don't weaken your club's platform of building trust by jumping to conclusions. I made a mistake last game accusing anyone who didn't agree with me of being a member of the mafia, which was both presumptuous and incorrect. You're in a position to do a lot of good for the colony, don't blow it with a lack of tact.

cb361 said @ 10:14am GMT on 24th Jun
This means that as they grow they get more control over the lynch votes, swiftly it will come to a point where they are lynching one person and converting another until they get rid of all opposition and win the game.

If the Awesome Club can be a winning team (not mentioned in the rules and if Narrenschiff says that it is, I would consider it a retrograde alteration of the rules) and lots of us get inducted onto the Awesome Club, then lots of us are winners at the end.

I'm getting quite bored here and would quite like to be inducted into a secret society, but that's probably not very likely as I'm considered a bit suspicious myself. But hypothetically, if I were, then whether the club or the town won, I would be a winner. Unless the androids win.

Context said @ 8:49am GMT on 23rd Jun
It would seem to me that, with sythe trying to get the town to go after the cult AND their night kill used on who they believed to be suspicious, the cult is a danger to the androids. A high enough priority to use their night kill on someone they suspected to be an android.

Wouldn't this suggest that the Awesome Club is a benefit to the town?

Aidentas said @ 8:53am GMT on 23rd Jun
That aspect of a cult is beneficial to the colony, but the cult's own interests aren't.

snowfox said @ 2:10pm GMT on 23rd Jun
They killed our mutant last night. Of course it's because we're townies, and because I'm a member. They want me dead too because I AM the mouthpiece, a confirmed a townie and perhaps a little clever.

Aidentas said @ 2:26pm GMT on 23rd Jun
They killed your mutant last night, but possibly because I was part of that sythe cult mob (curse his lying CPU!), and sythe and I both advocated publicly for the androids to kill him.

I'm not sure they want you dead though. As far as they know, the Awesome Club is a cult. If you get on a streak of not killing droids, they've be VERY HAPPY.

That said, stop being humble. You're a clever fox.

Aidentas said @ 3:02pm GMT on 23rd Jun
they'll...

My fingers are tired.

-_- said @ 9:15am GMT on 23rd Jun
This game has 3 teams trying to win.

1)Townies (the good guys!..... yaaaay!)
2)Androids (the bad guys ... boooooo!)
3)Cult (the other bad guys .... boooooo!)

All three teams have to eliminate the other two in order to win ... any benefit or aid given to an enemy is temporary and not a sign of friendship.

The Androids are more motivated to kill the cult off because it is certain death for them to face an organized undercover opponent that can PM and co-opt the abilities of specials such as the protectors and the Nympho.
The Townies are less motivated at present because many of us seem confused by the 3 people in here saying either that the cult is on the towns sides or that the cult isn't a proven part of the game .... snowfox for instance has said both in the past and now she has come forward as a cultist saying they are on the side of the town ........ this game will not have 2 winners!

If the RCG has converted a protector already then the androids won't be able to kill him at night, it will be up to us during the day.

Saying the Cult is good for the town is either foolish or the strategic lie of a cultist........ which is it Context?

penisinface said @ 9:34am GMT on 23rd Jun
THIS ISN"T A GAME!! we're talking about human lives here man! HUMAN. LIVES. (its a good day today)

kishi said @ 10:12am GMT on 23rd Jun [Score:1 Underrated]
And android lives, too.

Context said @ 3:40am GMT on 24th Jun
If you get so caught up in finding this 'cult' then you are giving temporary aid to the androids, who we know to be our enemies. The Awesome Club could go either way.

Things that Narrenschiff has said have led me to believe that the Awesome Club is, at worst, neutral to the town's interests. With snowfox coming out and explaining things when she was not leading the vote count, I'm inclined to believe her.

If I am wrong, I understand that suspicion will be cast upon me. That's all right, I'm willing to take my chances.

-_- said @ 8:33am GMT on 24th Jun
If I get lynched today I dearly hope that my proven humanity motivates everyone to take down both you and snowfox, possibly with a side order of DefianceFalcon for being either androids or Cult.

You mention that Narrenschiff has comeforth to bend peoples will toward trusting the Awesome Club ..... Please, show me where on Onan we can find the WORDS WRIT LARGE IN FLAME FROM THE CREATOR OF THIS UNIVERSE TELLING US WHO TO TRUST AND WHAT OUR COURSE OF ACTION SHALL BE so that I may change my vote and leave this mockery of a game you paint it as being.

Creator of the Universe said @ 8:47am GMT on 24th Jun
Sorry for the inconvenience.

CapnSilver said @ 12:10pm GMT on 23rd Jun
Now, not to make a big deal or anything, but aren't the mercers a pro town side who can pm? If so, why have the awesome club?

I feel that snowfox is FULL OF LIES!!!!! and the awesome club is something we need to stomp the fuck out and do it now.

Bob LLama said @ 12:16pm GMT on 23rd Jun
I was literally about to post this:

"A thought:

So the word on the street is that "Awesome Club" is just regular townies who can PM.

Which got me thinking: don't we already have a secret group that can PM and is pro-town? I had completely forgotten about the Order of Mercer (are they even playing?). BUT they're basically a secret town group that can PM and AFAIK don't have any other special abilities.

So why would Narren make a second super-special group of townies with no ability other than PMing...

Riddle me that, Batman."

Bob LLama said @ 12:18pm GMT on 23rd Jun
So if we get the RCG, does that undo the whole cult? Or do they persist beyond his death?

If killing him kills the cult, we need to lynch him ASAP. Otherwise, I guess lynching Snowfox is as good a choice as any, s much as it pains me to say.

Aidentas said @ 12:26pm GMT on 23rd Jun
Simply put, we don't know. The cult role has multiple variants. In some, the loss of a cult leader creates a void for another cult member to step into. In others, the cult leader's death prevents future recruiting.

snowfox said @ 2:18pm GMT on 23rd Jun
The Awesome Club starts from the ground up, and is capable of inviting Mercers and special roles, making it potentially a much more powerful tool for the townies than the Mercers.

However, it can also recruit an android and be utterly destroyed without doing anything useful at all, making it, potentially, much worse than the Mercers. That is why the game is still balanced, and why the Awesome Club is distinct from the Mercers. It just so happens that the Awesome Club got a great start this game, and had a mutant to screen every potential member, and so has not been infiltrated.

The only thing hampering the Awesome Club from helping the rest of the town is the rest of the town.

I would like to say at this time I believe CapnSilver and -_- are both androids. They are both working hard to propagate the bullshit Sythe started. I promise at least one of them will be an android, even if I can't have them formally checked out. Please trust me until then and I will prove that I am here to help you.

graham said @ 2:45pm GMT on 23rd Jun
I dunno 'bout that.

penisinface said @ 2:57pm GMT on 23rd Jun
me neither. i get the feeling the awesome club has already been infililtrated.

-_- said @ 4:59pm GMT on 23rd Jun
If what snowfox is saying about the Awesome Club is true then I agree 100% that they have been infiltrated.
If what snowfox is saying is once again a lie then I think the androids killed Rainbow Randolf because sythe pegged him(incorrectly) as the RCG.
Either way the Awesome Club is useless to the town and way to risky to be allowed to continue recruiting members every cycle.

-_- said @ 10:15am GMT on 24th Jun [Score:-1 Flamebait]
FUCK IT, don't listen to me, Narrenschiff has already come out and said that the Awesome Club is on the side of the townies for no apparent reason other than to protect them and snowfox from lynchings.
Any GM that does that kind of shit is incompetent and ruins the game in my opinion.
But like I said, don't listen to me ... do what ever you want (as long as it fits Narrenschiffs plans for this game)

CapnSilver said @ 12:34pm GMT on 24th Jun [Score:-1]
don't be a madlobster

svelte sythe said @ 12:53pm GMT on 24th Jun

Bob LLama said @ 2:55pm GMT on 23rd Jun
I promise at least one of them will be an android

So we should just waste two days' worth of lynchings to lynch two people I suspect are town?

I'm gonna go with fat chance.

-_- said @ 5:14pm GMT on 23rd Jun
She accused me of being an android when I called for her to be lynched.

She accused me of being an android after we lynched her.

When the Awesome Club co-opted her she proclaimed that she knew me to not be an android for the same reasons she knew sythe to be an android though at the time she was claiming to have a list of suspicious players culled through insights into game mechanics here.
I'll bet a free breast addition that Randolf investigated me on the first night (I was noisy enough for all of the investigators to target me ... that way when one comes forward I'll be confirmed for sure) and told the RCG (and by association snowfox) that I'm not an android.

Now that I speak out against the Awesome Club she's gone back to calling me an android.

She's flailing around.
She's in an untenable position and she knows it.
The RCG is wasting a valuable asset by making her come forward to us like this.
The RCG might be flailing too.

DefianceFalcon said @ 5:41pm GMT on 23rd Jun
When the Awesome Club co-opted her she proclaimed that she knew me to not be an android for the same reasons she knew sythe to be an android

Where, exactly did she say this?
All she said in that link was that the people she suspected didn't seem to like you.

-_- said @ 6:48pm GMT on 23rd Jun
Yeah, sorry, I can see that it reads that way.
The sub thread that that comment is a part of is one where she is pretending that the reason she suspect sythe of being an android is because she has a list and has done some detective work ... as opposed to just having sythes name handed to her by her new puppet master.
I suppose I'm guilty of reading between the lines, having been given new evidence by snowfox(her later admissions regarding sythe and the Awesome Club), there.

snowfox said @ 4:48am GMT on 24th Jun
I had no choice. We were operating under Narrenschiff's rules. I had to lie to you until I got the ok not to.

-_- said @ 8:40am GMT on 24th Jun
!!THIS IS WHY THE CULT IS DANGEROUS!!

Snowfox doesn't say that Narrenschiff told her she could tell us the truth, which she would have(if he had) by writing "until I got his ok not to." instead of "until I got the ok not to."

SHE IS NOT IN CONTROL OF HER OWN ACTIONS AND PLAY !
SHE IS JUST AN EXTENSION OF THE RCGs WILL !

Who else wants to give up control over their character to the RCG?

Not me.

-_- said @ 10:07am GMT on 24th Jun [Score:-1 Flamebait]
FUCK IT, don't listen to me, Narrenschiff has already come out and said that the Awesome Club is on the side of the townies for no apparent reason other than to protect them and snowfox from lynchings.
Any GM that does that kind of shit is incompetent and ruins the game in my opinion.
But like I said, don't listen to me ... do what ever you want (s long as it fits Narrenschiffs plans for this game)

graham said @ 5:53pm GMT on 23rd Jun
So, with your wisdom, how would offing snowfox be a bad thing right now?

OCCOOCCOCOC: I r not too good at games :D

-_- said @ 6:52pm GMT on 23rd Jun
Unfortunately I no longer think that lynching snowfox would be a bad thing.
In fact I'm voting to lynch her and calling apon others to do so as well.

Anyone who doesn't trust the "Awesome Club"(aka: the Cult) needs to vote to lynch her as well.

If you trust snowfox and you trust the Awesome club then you should vote to lynch me.

graham said @ 9:43am GMT on 24th Jun
Frankly right now i don't see the cult as being a huge threat. YET. Right now there are still more androids out there than humans, and the fact that they're trying to kill us while the cult is just trying to control us...I dunno. I'm torn.

Frankly, tonight, I'd rather kill an android than a cult member.

Context said @ 6:33pm GMT on 23rd Jun
She isn't flailing, you are twisting her words, and taking them out of context. This does not help your credibility.

-_- said @ 7:02pm GMT on 23rd Jun
Show me where I twist her words or shut up.
Show me where I take her words out of context so as to misrepresent their meaning or sod off.

And since you want to talk it up with me let's get down to brass tacks shall we?

It is expected to be accurate that the Awesome Club(Cult) has 3 members right now ... the RCG and 2 remaining converts (one of which is snowfox).
Entertainingly enough you and DefianceFalcon are the only other people voting to lynch me so far ... and for that matter you were both the next ones after snowfox to vote at all (even though you both waited about 4 hours to do so).... which makes it funny to look at the vote thread as it has you three bunched together like some kind of Awesome Cult.

Why are you so eager to defend a confessed member of the Awesome Cult anyway?
Are you being forced to?
Or are you forcing DefianceFalcon to?

Context said @ 8:43pm GMT on 23rd Jun
I wish. I've been a vanilla townie in all three games so far, a special role would be more entertaining.

No... it just makes more sense to me that the Awesome Club is not anti-town. If you read my other comments, I haven't always felt this way, even during this day. If I were forced to do anything through game rules, I couldn't change my mind during the day.

I was the one townie who voted for Rainbow Randolf for fear of this cult yesterday. It seems, though, that the androids are afraid of the Awesome Club as well. Why are you wanting to help the androids?

Take a look at some of the comments Narrenschiff has made. He upmodded the comment that was made saying that the function of this "cult" is not necessarily the same function as other cults. That and his admonishment of sythe for listing it as a "Cult" under the body count inclines me to believe it is not necessarily a harmful thing.

For now, I'm with snowfox. Not because my hand is being forced, but because it makes a lot more sense than your frenzied ramblings.

And where have you misrepresented snowfox's statements? Anytime you quote her. You seem to have an agenda. And you seem to wildly accuse anyone who disagrees with you... but you have to realize that you don't have more credibility than anyone else, you just talk more.

-_- said @ 8:58am GMT on 24th Jun
1) Doubt that.

2) Your controller might change his mind though, or play you strategically.

3) I'm Not looking to help the Androids, they just happen to have as much reason to fear the cult as we do.

4) A good GM might (rarely, and with strong provocation) share a hint or clue to get players back on track but doing so to preserve or protect a favored plot point is just incompetent ..... it's the difference between a game and a story.

5)If you are actually right then I have no interest in staying in this "story" anyway.

6)That's a bullshit cop-out, if you had proof or even an instance you would share it instead of this crap.

DefianceFalcon said @ 5:07pm GMT on 23rd Jun
Quick question: how, exactly, did you wind up getting a mutant?
Assuming the RCG got lucky and the first person he decided to PM was a mutant, how could he be sure? If you run the risk of inviting an android, that implies that you don't have any special way of determining someone's role. So how did you know you could trust this person who claimed to be a mutant?
It's not like the mutant could investigate the RCG first. Even if a mutant were to find the RCG, it seems the RCG would have to be the one to initiate contact.
If you could provide some sort of insight into the workings of all this, it would go a long way to allaying our collective fears.

CapnSilver said @ 2:07am GMT on 24th Jun [Score:1 Insightful]
"I would like to say at this time I believe CapnSilver and -_- are both androids."

How about: Fuck You.

This is the reason I've decided the awesome club is bad. You're fucking floundering about, spewing shit everywhere about how great you and your crappy little club is, all the while making secret plans to kill us all.

I've done a little research: Buster Friendly (the basis for the RCG) and Wilbur Mercer, from DADOES, are diametrically opposed to one another. Using the cannon material, RCG and company are against the Mercers.
We know that the Mercers are pro town. Unless they're evil mercers or something of that nature.
Back to the point: storywise, the mercers and the awesome club are enemies. And we know that the mercers want the town to win. Therefore, it follows, that the cult is a bunch of evil bastards that need killing.

Bladesmith Dualscimitars said @ 10:44am GMT on 24th Jun
That and the whole

"Watch out for this guy. He's a townie."

Lead me to think he's not on our side at all. There is one person who shows up as Android but is not on the android, I imagine that the RCG shows up as town, but is not on town's side at all.

Snowfox lied to us about the existence of a cult, now comes out saying there it is, and she's one of em. Now she fingers everyone who doesn't agree with her as being an android? Doesn't sound like trustworthy behavior. In fact, the way she's acting today reminds me of Sythe floundering around on Day 3. The pressure is on, and she's starting to crack.

Oh, and the fact that there have been only 2 other people to really support snowfox, which is around the same number of other people we suspect being in the Awesome Club, interesting. If it means what I think It might, it would be ballsy to expose the rest of the Awesome Club, but you really don't want to lose your mouthpiece, do you?

shiney things said @ 12:37pm GMT on 23rd Jun
was kyle in the awesome club? with two mutants dead, i think it is reasonable to think that the androids have infiltrated the awesome club. if there is an awesome club member other than snowfox and the rcg, we need to know who that person is.

right now i trust snowfox. narren said the game was balanced, meaning that the cult can't be detrimental to the town. They are like the mercers except it is a growing group with a defined leader that can have investigators involved. infiltration is the biggest concern.

the fact that -_- is so anti cult is worrysome. i'm watching out for him.

verycleanteeth said @ 12:57pm GMT on 23rd Jun
We probably would have seen a tattoo on kyle when we found his body if he had been Awesome.

-_- said @ 3:53pm GMT on 23rd Jun
HOW IN THE HELL WOULD THE ANDROIDS INFILTRATE THE AWESOME CLUB?

Snowfox has already said that the club needs an android to sniff out androids.
The rules for a cult/awesome club/teh ghey clearly state that any attempt to get an android/mob/werewolf to join results in the death of the cult leader.

The reason that snowfox is able to be converted instead of killing the cult/club/society leader is seemingly because she is townie in spirit and not just hanging out looking for an opportunity to kill humans like the other androids are.

Things you can take to the bank...
snowfox is a member of the Awesome Club.
The Awesome Club won't win until they are the only ones alive.
The Awesome Club wouldn't be so Borg like if they weren't trying to win.

I love how before there were people saying that I wasn't to be trusted because I was agreeing that there is a secret group trying to kill the androids and take over all the humans, and now that snowfox confirms that they exist and is their mouth piece I have people calling me suspicious for saying that the secret group (that converts people in the night, whether they want to be converted or not, and has communications secret from the rest of the town) is going to try to take over the town.

Think about it people ..... why would the RCG recruit new members every cycle if he wasn't trying to take over the town?
Why would such abilities exist if not to create a new vector for accomplishment.
If not the complete takeover of the town then what is the success conditions for such a staggeringly powerful character as the RCG?

snowfox has voted to lynch me.
I've outed her twice now for playing double roles.
The RCG controls snowfoxs vote as well as his own and one other players.
If voting to lynch me doesn't release me from voting however snowfox says to then nothing does.
I'm going to call for a vote to lynch snowfox followed by a search for the RCG.
After we lynch snowfox (for a second frigging time) we're going to have to take a hard long look at whoever votes to lynch me in hopes of finding the other two cultist.
Oh this is going to get messy.

DefianceFalcon said @ 5:07pm GMT on 23rd Jun [Score:1 Insightful]
The rules for a cult/awesome club/teh ghey clearly state that any attempt to get an android/mob/werewolf to join results in the death of the cult leader.

Why do you assume that this awesome club necessarily conforms to the same rules as laid down in the gospel of mafiascum.net? Narrenschiff (like most of us around here) seems like a non-conformist soul who enjoys screwing with people's heads. Even if he decided to base the RCG on the cult leader, there's no guarantee that he has the same goals or restrictions.

-_- said @ 6:12pm GMT on 23rd Jun
I see the Awesome club as redundant to the Mercers if it is actually on the towns side.
If we have the Awesome club then why do we have the Mercers?

Why don't we have a serial killer or anything like it in a game of 40 people?

Why do we have an Actually a Replicant character if all androids can join the cult?

Why does the Nuclear Heart explode when scared if the Awesome Club is on the same side?

All these questions, and more, are easily answered by saying The Awesome Club is a cult and they will convert or kill everyone else so that the RCG can win.

That's why I believe the Awesome Club to be a threat to the town.

Why would anyone assume that they are friendly?

Narrenschiff said @ 8:05pm GMT on 23rd Jun
C'mon face ol' buddy, check who modded that comment up.

-_- said @ 9:12am GMT on 24th Jun
OH MY GOD, YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!

You're actually taking an active role in the game!
You're telling me how to vote!
You're meddling in the game to preserve some favorite little plot twist of your own devising apparently!

You have broken the first law of GMing, "Do not get personally involved"
You are incompetent as a GM.
THIS ISN'T A GAME IT'S A STORY !!!

YOU'RE NOT GMing OR NARRATING, YOU'RE AUTHORING ACTIONS NOW !!!

Ok fine ... I'll change my vote and get lynched , have fun with your story.

Caffeine said @ 9:17am GMT on 24th Jun
Dude, why are you so pissed? It says right in Day 0 that the Really Charismatic Guy is town. Just because you're arguing otherwise, and a lot of people seem to be buying it, does that mean he's incompetent for indirectly hinting at something that's already been plainly stated? By him? Before the game started?

-_- said @ 10:21am GMT on 24th Jun
"Dude" .... I'm pissed because this level of GM intrusion abso-fucking-lutely crosses the line and changes the game into a story written by Narrenschiff.
I've run into other GMs in the past who shared this same incompetency and weakness and I said the same thing to them and I quit playing there too.
Luckily for me I can only think of 2 other times it ever happened in 20 years.
It was a game.
And I was having a really good time playing it.
Noe it's a story dictated by Narrenschiff and I have better things to do with my time than play some "game" where the "GM" is going to pull shit like this.

Caffeine said @ 10:24am GMT on 24th Jun
So shut the fuck up and go.

verycleanteeth said @ 9:27am GMT on 24th Jun [Score:1 Underrated]
Jesus. Take a deep breath -_-.

Mayhaps I can interpret for -_- without the vitriol.

"I say good sir, stepping in to alter the course of the game like this seems bad form from a GM, although I respect your decision to do so, as you have put much effort into this whimsical game, full of intrigue and turns of fancy, for our humble entertainment."

Narrenschiff said @ 1:52pm GMT on 24th Jun
Just trying to point out what I've already said on Day 0.

-_- said @ 3:50pm GMT on 24th Jun
Which would be fine if you were a player ... but you're not ... you're the GM and your words are taken in a completely different light .... they are the equivalent of floating words of flame from the old testament ... the living word of the Creator of the Universe. ... never to be argued with for they are truth embodied ...etc ...
the same words from a player may influence ones mind but when they come from the GM they are an insight into the true workings of the game.
It was exactly the same as coming out and saying "Chill, The Awesome Club is Good Guys ".

the androids have every reason to complain, you're playing for the town.

Araneidae said @ 10:05am GMT on 24th Jun
Shh... You're not playing (nor am I, of course...)

snowfox said @ 8:52pm GMT on 23rd Jun
I said we need a mutant to sniff out androids. I said we need to kill you, an adroid, to flush out leads.

-_- said @ 9:12am GMT on 24th Jun
Well that's going to be a dead end.

SiryumYum said @ 12:55pm GMT on 23rd Jun
A history of the awesome club, from what I can deduce.

Day one: Snowfox is lynched by town, as a confirmed townie, she is a delicious target for RCG. that night the RCG confronts her in the town hall and converts her to his ways.

Day two: RCG is looking for more people to convert. Hoping to rely on Randolf's ever-popular TV show to help sway public opinion in his favor, he converts Randolf. Randolf has probably scanned sythe that night, because of his large numbers of comments. If I were an investigator, I'd probably be after the more prolific people.

Day 3: Randolf is informed via PM of his status as an awesome club member and immediately informs RCG that Sythe is an android. Capitalizing on our trust in snowfox, he tells her to have Sythe lynched. That night, the androids get lucky in lynching Randolf, removing both a mutant and an awesome club member. Both of which are threats to their dominance.

Which leaves us at day four. It remains to be seen whether the awesome club is beneficial to us or not. Some possible thoughts.

If the awesome club is so awesome, why did snowfox keep it secret until today? What is there to hide if this groups gives townies more power? Snowfox denied the existence of the cult, claiming it to be propaganda by the androids. Then once we learn that there is an awesome club, she immediately announces her membership in it, and how awesome it is.

On the pro side, the awesome club gives us normal townies the opportunity to be in their own secret society, and finally have a chance to organize without the androids being privy to our logic.

I'm staying neutral on the awesome club till it's been decided if it works in the town's favor or not.

SiryumYum said @ 12:57pm GMT on 23rd Jun
On a side note, today's special is the Awesome Club Sandwich. Featuring Rainbow trout fillet, snow peas, and Really Crunchy Greenbeans.

verycleanteeth said @ 1:06pm GMT on 23rd Jun
Siryumyum: If the awesome club is so awesome, why did snowfox keep it secret until today?

snowfox (written in a comment up above): I've given you all the information now. I couldn't before because we were forbidden by Narrenschiff and I was forbidden by the RCG. I am revealing the Awesome Club and all it does now because I have received a PM instructing me to do so.

Aidentas said @ 1:11pm GMT on 23rd Jun [Score:4]
Voting update
As of 4:30pm PDT:

(-_-) 1 vote (snowfox)
Aidentas 1 vote (Aidentas)

~31.5 hours left, 33/35 votes left.

Sorry sythe, couldn't help myself.

svelte sythe said @ 2:14pm GMT on 23rd Jun
By all means, run with it, I'm too dead to count votes anymore.

Aidentas said @ 5:36pm GMT on 23rd Jun
Voting update
As of 9:00pm PDT:

(-_-) 3 votes (snowfox, DefianceFalcon, Context)
snowfox 3 votes (penisinface, bruceski, -_-)
Aidentas 1 vote (Aidentas)
HoboSpice 1 vote (Graham)
carrotboi 1 vote (verycleanteeth)

~24 hours left, 26/35 votes left.

Aidentas said @ 5:52am GMT on 24th Jun
Voting update
As of 9:00am PDT:

(-_-) 5 votes* (snowfox, DefianceFalcon, Context, eightysix, cb361)
snowfox 5 votes* (penisinface, bruceski, -_-, dualscimitars, badgerbaiter)
Aidentas 1 vote (Aidentas)
HoboSpice 1 vote (Graham)
carrotboi 1 vote (verycleanteeth)

~12 hours left, 21/35 votes left.

*CapnSilver has decided to vote for the one with the lowest vote tally between (-_-) and snowfox.

Aidentas said @ 11:18am GMT on 24th Jun
Voting update

As of 9:00am PDT:

(-_-) 7 votes* (snowfox, DefianceFalcon, Context, eightysix, cb361)
snowfox 6 votes* (penisinface, bruceski, -_-, dualscimitars, badgerbaiter, Caffeine, evilmarshmallow, CapnSilver)
HoboSpice 2 votes (Graham, Bob LLama)
Aidentas 1 vote (Aidentas)
carrotboi 1 vote (verycleanteeth)

~6.5 hours left, 18/35 votes left.

*CapnSilver has decided to vote for the one with the lowest vote tally between (-_-) and snowfox.

Aidentas said @ 11:19am GMT on 24th Jun
err..

2:30 PM PDT

super svelte sythe said @ 2:18pm GMT on 24th Jun
So in light of Narrenschiff's announcement I think you all may want to think about your votes. So here's how it currently stands:

Voting Update
As of 5:30pm PST

snowfox6 votes (penisinface, bruceski, dualscimitars, badgerbaiter, aaroncc, Siryumyum)
Hobospice3 votes (graham, Bob Llama, Capnsilver)
carrotboi1 vote (verycleanteeth)
Aidentas1 vote (Aidentas)
Forget this stuff, let’s just go eat lunch1 vote (Dioxin)
I VOTE TO KILL EVERYONE! I HATE YOU ALL!1 vote (-_-)

~3.5 hours of voting left, 22/33 votes remaining

super svelte sythe said @ 3:53pm GMT on 24th Jun
Since I'm around and people are still worried about snowfox:

Voting Update
As of 7:00pm PST

Hobospice6 votes (graham, Bob Llama, Capnsilver, badgerbaiter, evilmarshmallow, shineythings)
snowfox5 votes (penisinface, bruceski, dualscimitars, aaroncc, Siryumyum)
graham2 votes (carrotboi, Kimota)
carrotboi1 vote (verycleanteeth)
Aidentas1 vote (Aidentas)
aaroncc1 vote (Caffeine)
CapnSilver1 vote (Philistine)

annnnnnd……
Still voting for lunch even though it’s long past dinner (Dioxin)

~ 2 (or maybe 8) hours of voting left, 16/33 votes remaining

v21 said @ 1:20pm GMT on 23rd Jun
Fuck dudes, this is dramatic. 14 hour shifts are keeping me away from participating for the now, but wow.

verycleanteeth said @ 1:29pm GMT on 23rd Jun
Maybe we're going about this the wrong way. We have a single decision to make today, and we have to figure it out before tomorrow night. This decision is: Who do we lynch?

We don't seem to be coming to any consensus on whether or not we should like the Awesome Club, so maybe the best way to go about this is asking ourselves who we can lynch that would give us the most information to answer our questions.

We know snowfox is part of the club, but I don't think lynching her will really tell us anything we don't know, and we risk losing an important townie if what she says is true.

snowfox suggests we lynch face -_- because his promotion of the cult idea suggests he is an android. If we lynched -_- and he turned out to be an android that would tell us a lot, but if he was a human we would have learned nothing. I personally don't think there is any way -_- is an android with how vocal he has been. He would either have to be utterly brilliant or completely stupid, and I'd probably place him somewhere in the middle of those two extremes.

So where does that leave us? I'm not sure. Who can we lynch that would put our fears to rest? Maybe the androids will take care of that for us and we should focus our attention elsewhere?

snowfox said @ 2:07pm GMT on 23rd Jun
In Mafia cb361 appeared to be very useful, but was actually not helping at all. -_- is trying to look useful while misleading you. VictorTyne tried the same trick.

I think it's a worth a shot.

verycleanteeth said @ 2:30pm GMT on 23rd Jun
*shrugs* If that's what you think. I won't be voting for -_-, because I don't believe he is bot, but I understand your thinking.

-_-, if you die, I'm gonna turn your office into a masturbatorium, if that's cool.

-_- said @ 4:15pm GMT on 23rd Jun
"turn your office into a masturbatorium"?

Honey ... what did you think it was already?

-_- said @ 4:02pm GMT on 23rd Jun
Has anyone stopped to consider what happens if everyone joins the Awesome Club?

Androids can't join (other than the bishop).
The "actually a replicant" can choose to kill the RCG for trying.
The "bad" androids will kill the RCG for trying.
The RCG is facing some pretty steep risks .... what rewards might he face?

The RCG (Awesome Club) is trying to take over the town!
Why else would there be an Awesome Club and Mercers?
Two secret groups on the same side who communicate with their own members via PM --- but not each other --- makes next to NO sense and would make the game severely imbalanced against the androids..... this is a balanced game, therefore the Awesome Club must be opposed to anyone who isn't a member.

-_- said @ 10:22am GMT on 24th Jun [Score:-1 Flamebait]
FUCK IT, don't listen to me, Narrenschiff has already come out and said that the Awesome Club is on the side of the townies for no apparent reason other than to protect them and snowfox from lynchings.
Any GM that does that kind of shit is incompetent and ruins the game in my opinion.
But like I said, don't listen to me ... do what ever you want (as long as it fits Narrenschiffs plans for this game)

Kimota said @ 2:17pm GMT on 23rd Jun
Let's see... I say that we lynch first the androids, and then, once they are done for, we get rid of the Awesome Club, just in case.

Unless they make me a member. If they do, let's not.

Then again, we can argue that, either the RCG was Rainbow himself (although I guess Narren would have said something), or Snowfox, or there's a third guy. It could be sensible to nip this in the bud and finish of the Bishop.

I think I'm going to try to catch me a droid, tho.

badgerbaiter said @ 11:12pm GMT on 23rd Jun
FYI:

Snowfox is a type of droid!!

snowfox said @ 11:16am GMT on 24th Jun
But established on day 0 as a TOWNIE droid. I am on the side of the town.

graham said @ 5:54pm GMT on 23rd Jun
note to self: Read entire thread :D

graham said @ 5:56pm GMT on 23rd Jun
But let's say she still loves us...what good is she to us, the townspeople?

snowfox said @ 9:56am GMT on 24th Jun
Ask Narrenschiff if I'm an advantage to the townies.

graham said @ 9:58am GMT on 24th Jun
Narrenshariff: IS TEH TRUTH!?

snowfox said @ 11:17am GMT on 24th Jun
Really, ask anyone from the last Mafia game if I was an advantage to the townies.

Caffeine said @ 11:28am GMT on 24th Jun
At first, not so much.
Later on more so.

graham said @ 6:12pm GMT on 23rd Jun

CapnSilver said @ 2:14am GMT on 24th Jun
Here's my plan

Step 1: lynch both snowfox and -_-
Step 2: ??????
Step 3: Town Win!

Caffeine said @ 9:09am GMT on 24th Jun
OK. I just came back from a weekend of kayaking, and I am sore and tired, but very relaxed. So, I decide to read up and get back into the game.
What a perplexing read it was.
I was really hoping this bullshit would have ended by now, and I was glad to learn sythe was an android, and that my vote was in the right place. But instead of moving on to other issues, we're stuck on Sythe's "cult" theory. In fact, it seems to have killed our fucking mutant. And now -_- has gone off the deep end and picked up sythe's torch, rabidly trying to kill snowfox.
And then, interestingly, the GM himself hints that the Awesome Club is not a cult, and still -_- doesn't relent. He uses more caps. More bold. More giant text. He's like a fanatic. Instead, he starts insulting the game and going after the GM as well?
What the hell kind of rational activity is this for a player? He's acting like VictorTyne-Ultra. Why is he hell-bent not to accept that the townies might have someone helping them out? I never thought he was an android, but I can't think of ANY other role that would be this adamant about arguing the existence of a cult when there's so much proof against it.
And, furthermore, that makes me wonder about penisinface and company, who apparently in full support of -_-. I can't even understand what -_- is thinking, much less why someone would follow him. So why exactly are they so gung-ho about following -_-? Maybe they haven't been following the days very closely, and -_-'s posts stand out?
I just really don't get it.

So, -_-, I don't know what the fuck you are, or why you're doing this. I do know that there's vastly more logic AND evidence that the Awesome Club is on the town's side, and for that reason you force me to vote for your lynching. No matter which side you're on, you seem to be trying your damndest to hurt the townies, and I don't like it.

Misanthrope said @ 9:19am GMT on 24th Jun
Actually it would be much more balanced for the Club to act on its own and in the even of android elimination try to take over the town. Having the Club be pure town in that it wins if we win, would make the game really skewed in favor of the town. The game mechanics of the club I think is that they are their own side. In the even of recruiting an android it does give the androids an insight into how the voting may go, and if the RCG doesn't use a go between, it sticks him right in their crosshairs. My opinion would be to leave the Club be for now, and try to keep a general track of how their votes seem to go based on who we may suspect is in it. Also -_- seems a bit fanatical about killing snowfox, which really does nothing to help us neutralize the eventual threat the club may pose.

Caffeine said @ 9:31am GMT on 24th Jun
I disagree utterly. The way snowfox presents the Club looks completely balanced to me. She says the Charismatic Guy's only ability is PMing.
What brought down both cops in the Mafia game? Hmmmm.... was it PMing?
It's obvious that the ability to PM can be good or bad, depending on who you contact. What's so imbalanced about that?
And if PMing is all it is, it makes sense why Narren didn't mention it. Giving one guy the ability to PM doesn't bring down the game. It's a harmless wildcard to add some flavor to the proceedings.
However, introducing a "cult" that can win the entire game and not telling anyone about it? Not only is that wildly improbable, it's also insanely imbalanced.
Come on. Step back and use your head.

verycleanteeth said @ 9:35am GMT on 24th Jun
I wasn't around for the mafia game, so please enlighten me as to how one person's ability to PM brought down 2 goodies. I would think having a townie able to communicate through PM could only be a good thing? Isn't that why the mercers are a benefit to the town? Communication?

Caffeine said @ 9:42am GMT on 24th Jun
See, what happened was the cop thought he could trust someone, so he sent them a PM, revealing his role. It turned out that person was Mafia. So they talked in PMs, and the Mafia member earned the cop's trust, and the cop revealed he knew the identity of the other cop.
With this information, both cops were wiped out in one turn, crippling the town... all because of misplaced trust and PMing.

So you see, PMing is a double-edged sword. It can potentially be a big help, but it could just as easily have terrible consequences. Therefore, giving one random townie the ability to PM doesn't unbalance the game, it just adds to the chaos factor.

cb361 said @ 10:21am GMT on 24th Jun
Full story at :

Day 1
Day 2

Ah, those were good days. A town full of pizza restaurants and sexy dancers. Better than being drafted to be a colonist on a dry, empty Philip K Dick exo-planet, with nothing better to spend one's time on than pop Can-D, screw for the benefit of voyeuristic spy satellites and dodge the murderous robotic 'claws'.

cb361 said @ 10:25am GMT on 24th Jun
Seriously : When all you can do is post on the main thread, you know that everything that you write will be read by the enemy, so you're careful. When people PM they seem to erroneously believe that it's a safer channel so they are ready to reveal more. Sometimes disastrously so. By forcing people to only use the main channel, you're forcing them to be more careful.

verycleanteeth said @ 9:32am GMT on 24th Jun
I don't know much about balancing these games, but could the pro-town version of the Awesome Club be balanced out by having more androids than normal, or do these games always start out with roughly the same number of baddy/goody ratios?

badgerbaiter said @ 9:53am GMT on 24th Jun
Basically it must mean that there are about 20 androids in the town.

dualscimitars said @ 10:51am GMT on 24th Jun
If that was the case, they'd theoretically win right now. All they'd have to do is all vote to lynch the same target, day after day, and since they outnumber us, well, good game.

Although, I suppose the nuke throws a wrench into that theory.

Either way, they'd have the numbers to prevent one of their own from getting lynched, ever.

badgerbaiter said @ 10:02am GMT on 24th Jun
This is the best of the game though....

When two people battle it out with their own heads on the block.....

Thrilling game play.

Caffeine said @ 10:23am GMT on 24th Jun
This is a fucking travesty.
In the last game, Capn decided he wanted to bring the serial killer back, even though he'd already died. He did. The game moved on.
There was illegal PMing, and responses, and the game moved on.
He even fucking confirmed a townie was innocent, on accident, in the end game... and the fucking game went on.

Here, Narren makes one fucking little comment that you disagree with that doesn't reveal any new information to anyone that's been paying attention, in response to you and sythe assuming a role in MafiaScum is the exact same here (which - to speak to your tabletop roots- is fucking metagaming anyway), and you lose your fucking shit, in an obvious attempt to fucking ruin the game for everyone else.
Well guess what, it's working. Take your fucking hissy fit somewhere else.

I can't FUCKING stand self-righteous whiners.

-_- said @ 10:39am GMT on 24th Jun
Hey look!
we both have our own opinions.
It's nice when you can do that without GOD stepping in and saying "YOU KNOW .... ACTUALLY HE'S RIGHT" isn't it?

Caffeine said @ 10:45am GMT on 24th Jun
Let me try and reach you on a different level, here.
If you were playing a character in one of your DnD campaigns, and you were dragging the entire party down and muddling up the clues and story because you thought the bad guy was a certain class, when in fact in the beginning the GM had mentioned the bad guy was a DIFFERENT CLASS, and would therefore have different abilities... would you react like this if he made some subtle comments to get you to realize that you were wrong about something ALREADY ESTABLISHED?

No, you wouldn't. You'd get the fucking hint and continue. He's not trying to force you to follow his story, he was trying to get you to remember that on DAY 0, the Charismatic Guy is listed as "townie".

And you're being a dick and overreacting.

badgerbaiter said @ 11:05am GMT on 24th Jun
He's already dead....

Dioxin said @ 4:42pm GMT on 24th Jun
That guy is so totally not a wizard.

-_- said @ 11:05am GMT on 24th Jun
On day zero we were told to watch out for this guy in reference to the RCG as well.
Serial killers are townies.
Vigilantes are townies.
Nuclear heart is a townie.
Actually a Replicant is a townie.
Being a townie on day zero DOES NOT MEAN you are pro-town.

And as far as your hypothetical D&D player there .... if someone has their wires crossed and might accidentally hurt the partys chances for survival then I'm sure as hell not going to straighten him out on it ... that's what the OTHER PLAYERS ARE THERE FOR .

Think of it this way;
Do people make mistakes in real life?
Do these mistakes sometimes cause suffering?
If that didn't happen what would we think of life?
That we lack free will ... that's what.

If someone is playing in a game I GM they are free to do what ever they want ... I'm just there to take care of everything else.

I feel I have good cause to be a dick, and I might be over reacting a tad considering that I'm fucking pissed off right now because I just had the rug pulled out from under me by the motherfucking (supposedly impartial) GM.
Can you see as that might anger one?

Bob LLama said @ 11:08am GMT on 24th Jun [Score:1 Underrated]
No. This is a friendly, casual game amongst friends, with absolutely no cause to get upset over it in any way shape or form.

What's more important: maintaining the game, or maintaining harmony amongst us?

snowfox said @ 11:13am GMT on 24th Jun
"Watch out for this guy," is not necessarily a negative sentence. It's like,"Watch out for out new fall line-up!" or some shit like that. Even if it is a warning, how do you know it's not directed at the androids?

-_- said @ 11:27am GMT on 24th Jun
Everything is speculation in these games until you find proof.
I figured the Awesome Club for being a threat to the town and was acting accordingly.
Apparently my actions didn't fit with where Narrenschiff wanted the game to go.
If that's how his game is played then I'm not needed here at all, and neither is anyone else who deviates from script.

I can't tell you guys how much this kind of thing offends me.
It's an old issue for me, I hate when a GM takes direct action in game to prevent players from deviating from a preferred script.
I wanted to play a game, not walk through a story.

cb361 said @ 8:48pm GMT on 24th Jun
That was how I interpreted "Watch out for this guy." In fact my ingrained response to advertising made me think "Well, it's probably not very important then." But the bit about being on the town's side seemed pretty unequivocal.

Caffeine said @ 11:17am GMT on 24th Jun

Serial Killer: You're on your own side. Mafia, Town, it doesn't matter to you. You seperate the wheat from the chaff. And it's all chaff. You get to kill a person once per night. You nominally count as town for the purposes of the endgame, but if you're alive when that happens, you win, everyone else is a big fat loser.
NOT A TOWNIE.

Vigilante: On the town side. Once per night, they get to kill someone in hopes of finding the serial killer. If they kill the serial killer, then they become officially confirmed as town by me.
TOWNIE.

Nuclear Heart – This character has an artificial heart that runs on a miniature nuclear reactor. If killed or scared suddenly, the heart detonates and kills everyone around him. So yes, it’s like the survivalist from last time.
NOT SPECIFIED.

Actually a Replicant – One of you townies is actually a replicant! That’s too bad. If this individual finds out somehow, he can either commit suicide, commit a murder suicide, or do whatever. If you’re this character, you’ll be told that you’re a townie, but if investigated, you’ll turn up as an android. You count as an android for the endgame, but you’re a townie in spirit… unless the Nexus-8 contacts you somehow and you decide to defect. You’ll have to message me to confirm that, though.
TOWNIE UNTIL ACTIVATED, MUST BE CONFIRMED BY GM

A Really Charismatic Guy – This character is really charismatic. Who knows what that entails? Watch out for this guy. He’s a townie.
TOWNIE

See, it's really not hard. The ones that say "townie" are townies, and are on the side of the town, unless they specifically say otherwise. But that isn't even the point here. That's the argument you and I were having, and is unrelated to the GM thing.
As I mentioned above, all he did was upmod a comment that suggested the Charismatic Guy is different in some way from the Cultist role. In what way is that pulling out the rug from under you?
And although I won't deny you your emotions, I do think that you could have, I don't know, PMed Narrenschiff and let him know you disagreed with his method instead of plastering it all over the thread in giant font and kicking your legs and screaming like a child in a supermarket.

It's understandable to be mad, but it fucking pisses me off the way you're expressing it. It's childish, and inconsiderate, and displays a complete lack of care for how it may affect the gaming experience for anyone else.
Get over it.

-_- said @ 11:22am GMT on 24th Jun
You have your point, I have mine.
We disagree, I can live with that.

Caffeine said @ 11:26am GMT on 24th Jun
That's great for you.
However, my goal isn't to be right, it's to get you to stop shitting all over a game that I would still like to play, so I can't just agree to disagree, I need to convince you to fucking stop.

-_- said @ 11:35am GMT on 24th Jun
Ok I'll stop.
I've said my piece anyway.
Sorry for making it a mess in here for you.

graham said @ 11:09am GMT on 24th Jun
Heh...DnD...

Narrenschiff said @ 1:38pm GMT on 24th Jun [Score:2]
Well now that -_- has thrown the shit to the fan, I guess I'm just going to step out and make everything right.

The Really Charismatic Guy is a townie! No fuckin' shit! I said it on Day 0! Reading comprehension, people. What do I mean by watch out for this guy? Watch out for him! Maybe he'll send you a pm! It'll be fun!

The RCG has an option of turning into an evil cultist, but so far s/he's chosen not to do that. Isn't that nice, folks! I would never start a third party without letting you guys know. Fuckin' christ. If this does happen, I WILL LET YOU KNOW. You really think I'm going to let the game run until the end when I'll say "HAY GUYS THIS ONE GROUP I DIDN'T MENTION WINS, NOT YOU"? That's fuckin' idiotic!

The Awesome Club is simply a group of people, innocent or not, who can pm each other. It was designed as a compromise between the no-pms at all style of Capn and the pms-for-everyone style of Kimota. That's it! It's a pm club. Run by a special figure, RCG, an confirmed townie. That's it. He has no special powers apart from recruitment. Androids can just as easily be selected for the club as townies. It's not a cult, it's a private messaging organization.

Face, I'd like to congratulate you on being so sucessfully taken in by the androids. My little hints are supposed to help you. This isn't me trying to keep snowfox from being lynched. The fuck do I care about that? Snowfox is pretty cool, but we've exchanged all of a few paragraphs worth of communication. What interest do I have in that? I just want to keep you, the most irrational townie, from fucking yourself in the ass. Yes folks, I'm confirming that -_- is a townie. He already posted his private message.

By the way, showing off your private message publicly or in your little groups(androids, mercers, awesome clubbers, or cheats) is very bad form. Don't do that. I didn't even send you all the same message anyway, ya fuckers. And by 'ya fuckers', I mean face.

I could get super pissy about face's batshit insanity up there, but I'm not going to. I feel like I should kill him off, but I'll leave that decision up to him. Or the rest of you. Either way due to his fabulous shenanigans, no votes today for face will count. Actually I'll kill him, yeah. Posting your pm is not cool. You're free to continue running the mini-mafia game though, face.

I'm going to say this once. Shit has not changed from the beginning of the game. I'm not sending messages to keep people from being lynched. All I might be doing is trying to keep the game balanced-- I've been receiving some complaints about the game favoring the town, yes, that's right, the fuckin' town-- so I'm officially suspending the RCG's abilities for one night... and exiling snowfox from the Awesome Club. Happy now? Sorry snowfox, but them's the breaks.

I'm a little sore at the town at this point. Let me add that I increased the android to town ratio from Capnsilver's game, and reduced the number of protectors/investigators. Well, in celebration of -_-'s outbursts, I'm going to penalize his team, the townies. Face and endopol are officially dead. Face was a regular guy, endopol was the nuclear heart. Too bad the GM's immune to explosions. Somebody new gets the nuclear heart now.

Balanced enough? I hope so.

Narrenschiff said @ 1:40pm GMT on 24th Jun
I'd kill more of you, but that woudn't be fair. Endopol wasn't talking enough for my taste, but I left him alive because he was the nuclear heart. I guess not anymore.

Narrenschiff said @ 1:46pm GMT on 24th Jun [Score:1 Underrated]
And for the record? I let all you "the awesome club is a cult" people run with that because it's PART OF THE FUCKING GAME. If everyone in the mafia game suddenly decides that the order of mercer is working for the androids or "themselves" instead of working for the town even when the fuckin' mercers are clearly labeled as townies, that's their own goddamned problem! Not mine!

Narrenschiff said @ 1:54pm GMT on 24th Jun
GOD DAMMIT FACE WHY YOU GOTTA RUIN OUR GAME AND MY AFTERNOON WITH YOUR RAMPANT MISINTERPRETATION

-_- said @ 3:42pm GMT on 24th Jun
You are the GM ... not just another player.
You have all the secrets.
When I'm trying to get people to lynch someone I consider to be a threat to the town and you come in telling me that I've got it wrong you are actively playing the game and effecting its course.
Is that really so hard to understand?

I'm fine with being dead, thanks for saving the town and the androids from wasting a kill.

By the way ... your statement that the RCG has the option of playing the Awesome Club as either good or evil and that you'll let the town know if he chooses eveil .... well ... do you see the flaw here or should I just go ahead ... ok .... If the RCG has the option of changing the nature of the Awesome club then he can do so at the last minute too can't he?
And if the RCG guy decides to change the Awesome Club into an evil group how would it be appropriate for the GM to tell non-members of the Awesome Club that this had happened?
Seems kind of unfair to the RCG to me.

So what are you accusing me of misinterpreting any way?
The role of the Awesome Club (sounds like I wasn't wrong at all if the RCG can change it's nature to "evil" if he wants).
OR
Your comment to me about the Awesome Club not being evil?
Considering that you are the GM there would be no reason to say such a thing unless the Awesome Club definitely wasn't evil .... and even then you are wrong to steer players so overtly in my book.

Is this your first time GMing something?

super svelte sythe said @ 3:51pm GMT on 24th Jun
I believe that what he is specifically accusing you of being is an asshat.

that, and ruining all my fun

-_- said @ 5:07pm GMT on 24th Jun
sorry about your fun getting ruined.

SiryumYum said @ 6:11pm GMT on 24th Jun
Why'd you tell us this? you've just ruined a large portion of the suspense and intrigue from the game. Us misinterpreting the awesome club as an evil cult, and snowfox vehemently defending the cult, as well as face's overreaction were all part of the game. It made the comments fun to read, accusations flew, and even if face did take it a bit too seriously, that's his perogative. it seems to me that the whole point of the game is that no single person (save the GM) can ever know all of what's going on. The droids know who the droids are, the mercers know who the mercers are, and that's about it. By just laying bare a significant portion of the past day's intrigue, it seems you've killed the point. If you wanted us to know what the RCG was all about, you should have told us from the get-go. This is just my two cents, please don't construe it as an attack, or in any way as supporting any group. You could have PMd face the truth after he was lynched, and I'm sure he would have forgiven you. His vitriol seems to have stemmed from the fact that he saw the rules changed before his very eyes, and felt betrayed by it.

Narrenschiff said @ 8:08pm GMT on 24th Jun
Why'd I tell you? Because tons of fuckers were accusing me of changing rules around! Tons of fuckers wanted me to make everything clear! I needed to clear the air.

shiney things said @ 3:03pm GMT on 24th Jun
IN LIGHT OF THIS REVELATION, WE NEED TO GET A SAVE SNOWFOX CAMPAIGN GOING. SHE'S ONE OF THE GOOD GUYS. DON'T VOTE TO LYNCH HER.

snowfox said @ 3:34pm GMT on 24th Jun
What's it matter? I just lost any real power to help anyone. Expect to hear less from me. For now, I'll just be watching and taking notes.

shiney things said @ 3:50pm GMT on 24th Jun
you're still the only confirmed townie, and you are a trustworthy, safe voice for the awesome club.

Narrenschiff said @ 8:07pm GMT on 24th Jun
She's not in the Awesome Club anymore.

Context said @ 9:45pm GMT on 24th Jun
Get one going? What have I been doing, picketing an abortion clinic?

dualscimitars said @ 8:16pm GMT on 24th Jun
Wait a fucking second here, you don't explicitly state all the details of everyone's roles, and then throw a fucking shit fit when people misinterpret something?

Sorry, but cast me confused. You do realize that had this been stated in the Day 0 thread, none of this bullshit would have happened? Face may have taken it over the line, but you've got to point some of the blame at yourself, too.

Ah, whatever, this day has pretty much killed any promise of fun that this game would have had. So fuck it, kill me too. I'm done.

Jewbacchus said @ 1:49pm GMT on 24th Jun [Score:2]
Jesus Christ guys. Build a supergiantpowerful magnet and the game would be finished days ago.

Bob LLama said @ 2:20pm GMT on 24th Jun [Score:1 Underrated]
Might I propose we push the vote back maybe 6-12 hours in light of recent events?

Narrenschiff said @ 2:35pm GMT on 24th Jun
Not a problem. Hopefully we can get back on track after this unfortunate turn of events... the game is now slightly balanced towards an android win but with some pluck you townies still can do it. It's not TOTALLY unbalanced.

I mean, for all of you who had serious confusion about the role of the Really Charismatic Guy: pay attention!

From Day 0: You can always PM me questions about the game.

ALWAYS! Good luck, folks.

HoboSpice said @ 4:30pm GMT on 24th Jun
Just wanted to say so long to everyone who made the game enjoyable for me while it lasted.

In light of recent events, which I won't get into except to say that I strongly disagree with how they were handled, I wanted to let everyone know that regardless of whether your local druglord lives or dies tomorrow at lynch time that I am done with this game and I won't be checking in after I make this post.

Best of luck to both sides and I hope you have lots of fun.

juju said @ 5:10pm GMT on 24th Jun [Score:2]
Well.... craziness.

Kind of makes you wonder how face would have reacted to the sometimes crazy goings-on in the last game, since now we got to see what it's like when he survives past the first day.

sythe said @ 5:12pm GMT on 24th Jun
I'm just trying to imagine what face vs. victortyne would have been like.

juju said @ 5:18pm GMT on 24th Jun
A conflict at least worthy of a made for TV movie...
...
...
...
And let the hypothetical casting begin!

sythe said @ 5:22pm GMT on 24th Jun [Score:1 Hot Pr0n]
For some reason I'm just seeing John Leguizamo and Gilbert Godfrey

over and over and over and over and over again

carrotboi said @ 6:15pm GMT on 24th Jun
As interesting as it became I feel that the powers of the RCG should have been explained on Day0. People tend to read things differently. I had also noted the words "He's a townie" but interpreted it as "he's a human". Perhaps if the explanation included "Androids look out for this guy." I also see why it balances out as the townies shouldn't have any idea what side the group is on. At least knowledge of his being able to (seemingly) recruit people would have been nice. It is highly possible that the awesome group found out sythe was an android because narrenschiff denied sythe access to it. Rainbow Randalfs death? It could have been anyone.

graham said @ 9:06pm GMT on 24th Jun

So, Trig, I know you're technically an android, but ever since AaronCC's Janitorama took over, the whole security system's been outta whack. Stuff has been going missing, and sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night with that feeling that something's watching me...is it you? Could it be you?

...

Twizzler?