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Wednesday, 20 June 2007

quote [ (from IMDB)

Plot Outline:A comedy about 45 million people with no health care in the richest country on earth. ]

I knew he was a pinko the moment he demonstrated the use of his brain - I mean Reason. Direct link to torrent from http://www.chomskytorrents.org

[politics] [by sensible420@2:46amGMT]

Comments

Studmuffin said @ 2:55am GMT on 20th Jun
So, huh - isn't that illegal?

Not that that would stop me, but still - is this the direction we want SE to take?

Data Link Layer said @ 3:36am GMT on 20th Jun
It's not illegal.

spazm said @ 3:41am GMT on 20th Jun
Nobody is hosting it, right? Otherwise all torrent sites would be illegal...

Shirobake said @ 3:58am GMT on 20th Jun
Yes. I agree with you completely. What kind of sick bastards rip things like porn, music, and movies off the internet for free? Gosh, thats just wrong.

sensible420 said @ 3:00am GMT on 20th Jun
Well, I think your question boils down to this;

can Jesus microwave a burrito so hot that even he couldn't eat it?

This is my first post - and I'm pretty sure that posting directly to a torrent link is OK on SE (if that was your query).
I know alot of people who're having a hard time finding the torrent (Moore has been quite vocal of his approval of free distribution - he'll make millions regardless)

Originally I found it on CHOMSKY TORRENTS
http://www.chomskytorrents.org

MrZeroPing said @ 3:04am GMT on 20th Jun
Aaaaaaactually, I'm pretty sure that "hotlinking," which I might add is what you've done, is NOT okay. But you are right about the "torrents are okay on SE" just by looking at the sheer number of "torrent posts" we have here on SE. Better start posting some porn there bud.

Shirobake said @ 3:06am GMT on 20th Jun
It may be wrong, but it feels sooooo right...

spazm said @ 3:11am GMT on 20th Jun [Score:1 Funny]
STOP TOUCHING YOURSELF IN FRONT OF ALL THOSE PEOPLE!!!!

Todomanna said @ 9:30pm GMT on 20th Jun
No, no, please continue.

*gets video camera*

rattus said @ 9:22am GMT on 20th Jun
yes. that's right. people who post torrent files don't want anyone to link to them.

plongo said @ 5:23am GMT on 20th Jun
>can Jesus microwave a burrito so hot that even he couldn't eat it?

Yeah, like a 2000 years old guy knows how to use a microwave owen! DUUH!

KingPellinore said @ 6:14am GMT on 20th Jun [Score:1 Underrated]
Speaking of a 2000 year old man...

tomintroy said @ 3:40am GMT on 20th Jun
Yea, 45 million that are so disadvantaged that they have/had fleed to East Germany, Cuba, China, the U.S.S.R. and communist Canada.

revchoppy said @ 4:27am GMT on 20th Jun
Yeah, because the only options available are the U.S. or Totalitarian regimes.

idiot.

freedude said @ 7:09pm GMT on 20th Jun
"Twelve voices were shouting in anger and they were all alike. No question, now, what had happened to the faces of the pigs. The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which."

George Orwell, Animal Farm

sociology_boy said @ 3:52am GMT on 20th Jun
Yeah, that's a hotlink, try changing the link to the download page
...or you'll probably be downmodded into oblivion

Trigger said @ 5:10am GMT on 20th Jun
HAY SOSH

steele.ero said @ 5:55am GMT on 20th Jun
HAY TRIG

spazm said @ 6:53am GMT on 20th Jun
HAY STEE

mrcookieface said @ 7:06am GMT on 20th Jun
HEY SPA

Aidentas said @ 7:11am GMT on 20th Jun
HAY MISTER

choobacca said @ 7:28am GMT on 20th Jun
HAY AIDE

webbery said @ 8:05am GMT on 20th Jun
HA-CHOO

/gesundheit

Trigger said @ 8:16am GMT on 20th Jun
HAY WEBSTER

spazm said @ 8:19am GMT on 20th Jun [Score:1 Funny]
HAY TRIG

Jewbacchus said @ 10:57am GMT on 20th Jun
HAY SPEZ

Chop-Logik said @ 11:11am GMT on 20th Jun
HAY JEW

Aidentas said @ 11:27am GMT on 20th Jun
HAY CH0RP

assbastard said @ 12:27pm GMT on 20th Jun
HAY AIDS!

Trigger said @ 12:29pm GMT on 20th Jun
HAY BASTARD

Baxter_UK said @ 2:11pm GMT on 20th Jun
HAY T (4233)

Trigger said @ 2:41pm GMT on 20th Jun

Todomanna said @ 9:33pm GMT on 20th Jun
HAY GOPH

puravida said @ 4:04am GMT on 20th Jun
Correct me if I'm wrong, SE'ers, but hotlinking is wrong since it leeches bandwidth off of a poor, unsuspecting sap with now acknowledgment.

This torrent is 13.8kb, so even if it became immensely popular, it wouldn't effect the hosts bandwidth.

Given the files extremely small size, I see no problem with this. I'd edit the comments to mention Chomsky Torrents explicitly just to be nice though.

mrcookieface said @ 4:07am GMT on 20th Jun
As much as Moore's style makes him out to be the Left's Rush Limbaugh, I do admire the guy for publicly and repeatedly stating that he has no problem with his films being downloaded as long as no one profits.

revchoppy said @ 4:29am GMT on 20th Jun
Moore's style doesn't make him out to be the Left's Rush Limbaugh.

Right wing pundits are trying to make him out to be a lesser demon from the 8th pit of hell.

mrcookieface said @ 4:33am GMT on 20th Jun
Well, duh. Of course the Right wing pundits hate him, but that doesn't change my opinion that his actual style is very similar to Rush's.

revchoppy said @ 5:02am GMT on 20th Jun
Well, he isn't openly insulting to people, and he doesn't invent nicknames for people with whom he disagrees. That, and the fact, that the little tricks he does pull are actually funny because there has to be a little truth in jest.

mrcookieface said @ 5:11am GMT on 20th Jun
I'd argue that first point. I think he can be (and is) openly insulting to people as long as they're on the other side of the argument. It's just that you're agreeing with his point so his condescension and derision is acceptable.

He does use clips out of context (most notably the Heston 'take this gun from my cold dead hands' bit in Bowling, which Moore insinuated occured at the NRA meeting in Denver just after Columbine, but in reality it occurred years earlier at his re-election as NRA president), and he's a master of leaving out valid content that undermines his point (this bothers me especially, considering that most of the time the context wouldn't invalidate his point but merely make it less shocking).

I admire Moore's passion and motives, but I do think he (along with Rush) don't do anything but lower the level of discourse and make it easier for the other side to just disregard them.

maryyugo said @ 5:17am GMT on 20th Jun [Score:1 Insightful]
the "little tricks he pulls" are deceitful lies and they aren't little. while i agree with many of his causes, the way he presents them misleads deliberately.

moore isn't as much of a coward or a bully as limbaugh nor is he a hypocrit like limbaugh.

but he is a rank, obvious, transparent liar, inasmuch as he makes it seem that people are meaning to say something they don't. he also misrepresents what actually happened at and during events. he does all of this with artful, skilled editing and clip selection. anybody without a conscience can do that-- moore is just better at it and more vicious with it than most. that type of tactic is unnecessary, unconscionable, and despicable and moore does it consistently in the films i've seen, most flagrantly in Farentheit 911.

what amazes me is that people are so gullible, they believe moore's film tell the actual truth. then again, it shouldn't amaze me because most people still believe in a man the sky myth of some sort, in every imaginable kind of "old wives' tales", in magical explanations, in advertising, in political campaigns, in short, they fall for misleading well packaged crap like moore puts out, especially if, like his, it's sarcastic, arrogant and somewhat comical.

Shirobake said @ 4:36am GMT on 20th Jun
True. Moore exposes injustices. Limbaugh regurgitates right-wing friendly dogma. And only the former inspires his audience to think for themselves.

Shirobake said @ 4:38am GMT on 20th Jun
damn you, cookie! Your quick wittedness and skill at typing have placed me at second fiddle yet again!

lizard-bitch said @ 4:59am GMT on 20th Jun [Score:1 Insightful]
Moore's previous films have manipulated facts, interviews, and situations to exaggerate claims. I think that he's on the right side of history, but that doesn't mean I have to accept what's really just propaganda as good work. I can't accuse the US left of a lack of introspection, but try looking at the films critically. That he's so high profile makes it worse for those of us with the same ideas.

proppat said @ 4:13pm GMT on 20th Jun
His style doesn't make him out to be the left's Rush Limbaugh, the fact that he takes somewhat unrelated facts and statistics and bends and warps them to his purpose makes him out to be the left's Rush Limbaugh. And the fact that he's fat and obnoxious, but that's besides the point.

Honestly, I pretty much wear my social liberalism on my sleeve. I wish Moore would dissapear because he gives the intelligent right minority ample flawed material to use to pick on liberals. It promotes and furthers a stigma that the right has against the left and chases away a lot of fence riders.

maryyugo said @ 5:36am GMT on 20th Jun
just a few of the myriad internet sites that point out moore's duplicitous and self serving rank lies with varying degrees of objectivity and success and hell, it's a lot of work to do that and you don't, like moore, get paid well to do it:

spinsanity link which contains more links to moore mistakes and bias.

2004 critique of fF911 in national review.

youtube clip about sicko, annoying style, generally valid message.

you tube 38 second response by fred thompson. silly but funny.

there's so much more refutation and rebuttal of moore's antics on the web but then again, finding all that shit takes time.

monkeytooth said @ 8:48am GMT on 20th Jun
Reader's Digest Version:

spinsanity link - wtf - too much flaming to figure out where to start reading, or why.

2004 critique of fF911 in national review: Pretty good. Moore clearly skewed facts to attack Bush. Some left wing politicians even repeated his incorrect facts in public. That is the bigged punchline of the article. POLITICIANS USING SKEWED INFORMATION FOR THEIR OWN AGENDAS?

Youtube clip about Sicko: generally valid about what? It was complete wankery about communism, not socialized medicine.

Fred Thompson clip: Silly and funny (since he's smoking a cigar that's probably cuban) but not really relevant to anything.

There's a lot of rebuttal out there, but Moore's infotainment is much more infotaining. MOORE WINS.

Hemiii said @ 2:19pm GMT on 20th Jun
Fred Thompson... What a fucking asshat.

Todomanna said @ 9:38pm GMT on 20th Jun
I might be more likely to upmod if you included some information about the quality of the video, say, is it theater quality? Is it DVD quality? Is it VHS quality? Is it actually a video of your testicles?

I might be willing to watch any of these, if you told me. But now, I'm just all kinds of skeptical about this.