Sensible Erection | SENSIBLE HOWLING

Wednesday, 2 May 2007

quote [ Do werewolves really exist? Step inside and judge for yourself. ]

Day two
Day three
Day four
Day five
Day six

After having killed that dirty wolf, Narrenschiff, the towners felt good about themselves. And everyone slept well that night. Everyone except the werewolves... and Remiq.

Now, being a thief by trade, Remiq knew when somebody was following him. He tried to escape, to no avail. The remaining werewolves decided to get their revenge on their mate by killing slowly their most vocal opponent. First, they dragged him to a part of the forest where no soul could hear him scrim. Then they skinned the poor thief alive, a little strip of skin at a time, and when remiq was a barely living pulsating bundle of flesh and blood, they tore his heart out.

Then they ate.

His remains were found in front of the town's church, like an unholy offering to a particularly cruel god. Even the Necromancer seemed a bit uneasy handling the mess.

"Remiq was a Thorner. Lot of good his ideals did to him."

Nine players left.

THE CAST:

gronk23, the town's poet
~~endopol, the carpenter~~ Protector. Killed by werewolves.
~~Context, the local drunk~~ Innocent. Lynched.
~~scarshapedstar, the bailiff.~~ Innocent. Lynched.
~~Narrenschiff, a mysterious stranger~~ Werewolf. Lynched.
~~BobTWC, the mayor.~~ Innocent. Lynched.
LeavemeAlone, an old retired sailor

~~Barnabas Truman, the innkeeper~~ Thorner. Killed by werewolves.
plexer, the apothecary
Jestyr, a grain farmer
thumble, an old warrior
~~TheCooler, a turnip farmer~~ Thorner. Killed by werewolves.
solitude, the blacksmith
~~mouse, the handyman~~ Innocent. Killed by the werewolves

capnSilver, a swineherd
~~Nick, the baker~~ Werewolf. Lynched.
~~badgerbaiter, a dairy farmer.~~ Thorner. Killed by werewolves.
~~crad, a gong farmer~~ Innocent. Lynched.
~~remiq, a thief~~ Thorner. Killed by werewolves.
Avid, the barber and dentist
v21, the town's priest

*Non-players, please, refrain from commenting strategy*

[games] [by Kimota@6:54pmGMT] [+10 Good]

Comments

GehnRahl said @ 7:00pm GMT on 2nd May
Damn, personally I so thought remiq was a werewolf. I'm kind of bummed that we wasn't.

gronk23 said @ 7:02pm GMT on 2nd May
I guess I have to eat my foot now...

Sorry I doubted you remiq.

ZomBarnabas said @ 7:08pm GMT on 2nd May
I knew he wasn't a wolf.

zombadgerbaiter said @ 8:39pm GMT on 2nd May
Me too!

ZomBarnabas said @ 8:41pm GMT on 2nd May
Greetings, my zombrother!

zombadgerbaiter said @ 11:02pm GMT on 2nd May
Hey there,
Its been a long time old friend,
We should go out sometime soon and get a shit faced on brains!!

zombiremiq said @ 11:11pm GMT on 2nd May
Shall we conspire to kill undead king?

zombadgerbaiter said @ 11:17pm GMT on 2nd May
Can we kill that which is not living?

eightysix said @ 7:16pm GMT on 2nd May
admitting to your cannibalistic tendencies, i see.

Dioxin said @ 8:17pm GMT on 2nd May
He's not a werewolf, he just really likes people.

Barnabas_Truman said @ 8:40pm GMT on 2nd May
Greetings, my zombrother!

Barnabas_Truman said @ 8:41pm GMT on 2nd May
Damn. Ignore comment. Clicked wrong linkie.

Dioxin said @ 9:18pm GMT on 2nd May
I'm, uh, how to put this delicately... not into zombiesex.

rankorman said @ 7:05pm GMT on 2nd May
Go wolves!

badgerbaiter said @ 11:17pm GMT on 2nd May
Booooooo

Dioxin said @ 7:06pm GMT on 2nd May
You missed day 6.

Dioxin said @ 7:12pm GMT on 2nd May
If Werewolf With A Deathwish was shown as a double feature with Hobo With A Shotgun, I'd go see it.

kishi said @ 7:21pm GMT on 2nd May
Who would have known the werewolves supported monarchy?

King Werewolfgang XVI said @ 7:53pm GMT on 2nd May [Score:1 Funny]
I say, it's about time someone listened!

thumble said @ 8:28pm GMT on 2nd May
Nick - 5 votes (~~endopol~~, ~~remiq~~, CapnSilver, ~~Barnabas Truman~~, ~~The Cooler~~)

Looking grim for the good captain.

solitude said @ 9:32pm GMT on 2nd May
Well... with hindsight, it was kind of stupid to band together like that. It's like one big tasty lineup of thorner. I allways had CapnSilver pegged for the alpha, or a wolf at least (some things he said on the first days), but now I'm not so sure anymore, probably just potential wolf-food.

solitude said @ 9:38pm GMT on 2nd May
This is pretty bad. Remiq was despite my initial distrust probably the only person i trusted to be innocent 100%. Well at least it seems some other people in here know the identity of the seer. Let's hope that helps us find the last wolves.

remiq, ex-living said @ 11:10pm GMT on 2nd May
Ow man, I totally should vote yesterday!

CapnSilver said @ 12:59am GMT on 3rd May [Score:1 Insightful]
Can I have your attention please?
I, motherfuckers, am the seer. Gronks is a fucking wolf and I vote we lynch him today!

Now seeing as I'm not dead yet that means that I haven't done the alpha yet, because he'd have known who I was.
Here's how the case went down:
Night 1. Avid seemed trustworthy. Turned out he was.
Night 2. Remiq. Turned out okay. Surprising. Killing Nick was a guess but a good one. Remiq put me in touch with Thumble, also a thorner.
Night 3. Narrenschiff was a WOLF! I decided to let him dangle for a bit to buy some time.
Jestyr and solitude in the nights after that. Both "innocent" but I was unsure until I didn't turn up dead today.
Gronk last night and werewolf.

So, by my calculations that leaves THREE people to be the alpha.
v21 (whom I initially trusted)
Leavemealone(I was always unsure)
plexer (I've said it before that I think he's the alpha. but narrenschiff voted to lynch him. I'm now unsure. It may have been a ploy for this exact situation.)

So, make of it what you will, but Gronk dies today and you'll have to make of it what you will for the next day. I don't think we can lose if we follow my line of thought.

But yes, wolves, you're all fucked now.

thumble said @ 2:15am GMT on 3rd May
NO! I AM SPARTACUS!!!

TheCooler said @ 2:29am GMT on 3rd May
Ooh can I be Hercules?

Avid, the barber and dentist said @ 4:24am GMT on 3rd May
I corroborate his story, and further, I bring proof that this is not a hoax:

On April 30th, 2007 @ 05:12:19 PM, I, Avid, the barber and dentist, called dibs on CapnSliver's seer stone, Narrenshiff's werewolf hair, and Thumble and Remiq's anti-lycanthropy t-shirts.

Moreover, I anticipated that my dibs on these things might be contested, hence I registered them at the dibs registry, barring libelous claims against my character.

I turn your attention now to our precarious situation:

Key: Log string (V = lynch villager, W = lynch werewolf) v=#Villagers w=#Wolves f+s=Combined odds of winning for this day f=Odds of failing today, but eventually winning s=Odds of succeeding today and eventually winning Day 1: v=6 w=1 f+s=19/35 f=2/5; s=1/7 Day 2: W v=5 w=0 SUCCEED Day 2: V v=4 w=1 f+s=7/15 f=4/15; s=1/5 Day 3: VW v=3 w=0 SUCCEED Day 3: VV v=2 w=1 f+s=1/3 f=0; s=1/3 Day 4: VVW v=1 w=0 SUCCEED Day 4: VVV v=0 w=1 FAIL -==||Summary||==- Villagers: 6 Werewolves: 1 ----------- Total: 7 Odds of winning: 19/35 (54.3%)

An astute observer will note that, if one assumes only 1 wolf left tomorrow (the alpha), we have exactly three chances to find him, or we shall fail. Moreover, our seer has given us his most likely three candidates. I suggest we follow his plan. If he is correct, we are assured victory (though, perhaps a Pyric one at that); if incorrect, sure defeat.

zombadgerbaiter said @ 4:35am GMT on 3rd May
The dibs thing does check out......

For what it is worth!

remiq said @ 6:03am GMT on 3rd May
> On April 30th, 2007 @ 05:12:19 PM,
Avid CapnSliver's seer stone; Narrenshiff's werewolf hair. Thumble and Remiq's anti-lycanthropy t-shirts. May 03 2007 08:55:53 AM

In what timezone do you live?!

Avid said @ 8:17am GMT on 3rd May
Crap. Whoever made that site put an auto-timestamp in the schema. The consequence is that it resets the timestamp whenever someone votes on the dibs (incurring a SQL UPDATE command)

I'll send an email to the admin of that site.

In any case, other people have confirmed it prior to there being votes.

remiq said @ 10:58am GMT on 3rd May
No, it's not.

I voted for something and it didn't change.

Avid said @ 11:48am GMT on 3rd May
I checked it earlier and it did change; Probably the admin fixed it after I sent my email.

thumble said @ 5:39am GMT on 3rd May [Score:2 Insightful]
It's right there in his job description! capnSilver, a swineherd.

Bob LLama said @ 8:20am GMT on 3rd May
You are so fucked.

plexer said @ 11:45am GMT on 3rd May
What was/is your reason for trusting v21?
Does anyone have a breakdown of who voted for which werewolf? I still maintain your suspicion of me was for a stupid reason. Remiq agreed.

Plex

v21 said @ 1:51pm GMT on 3rd May
We were PMing a bit. Had villager-like talk. Nah, really we discussed a few suspicions, and discussed general strategy· Stuff like what the seer should do - find Thorners, spread through the word through them. No conclusive reason for either of us to trust the other, but enough to make us feel a wee bit more sure of ourselves than the random villager. I'll post the text if you want.

I had a breakdown, but it's a bit out of date. Still might make a decent start.

plexer said @ 11:49am GMT on 3rd May
Actually,
It might be beneficial for the Alpha NOT to kill the seer until quite a few nights after they were detected. Chances of loosing one co-wolf might balance out with having the seer think they were actually innocent.

In fact, if the alpha sacrificed the rest of their pack to the seer, then the seer would continue to think they were innocent. By killing their competition (i.e. people who the seer has also confirmed as innocent) then the village people will be left with a choice between a 'confirmed' innocent and unconfirmed people (who will actually be innocents, but they won't know that). They'll probably lynch the ones they are unsure of.

I don't know if wolves are that clever though. Can they open doors like velocaraptors?

Jestyr said @ 12:09am GMT on 4th May
http://www.stardustdreamer.com/nate/velociraptors.jpg

Jestyr said @ 12:11am GMT on 4th May
baha, failure!

Wadysseus said @ 12:13am GMT on 4th May
Par for the course, really.

I hate you.

Jestyr said @ 1:01am GMT on 4th May
*sob*

LeavemeAlone said @ 1:20pm GMT on 3rd May [Score:1 Interesting]
Bull fucking shit

You knew the identity of a wolf for three days and you let him live? And not just let him live, but you also questioned Avid about his choice of Narrenschiff on Day 4. You protected a wolf for two days while the all of the people who voted with you to kill Nick died! You also picked a really fucking good way to pull out all of the thorners and kill them one by one. Also, if you knew that Remiq was innocent on the night of day 2, why did choose him to die on day 3 before you switched to Nick? Or did you see the writing on the wall and switched to save your fucking ass.

It also seems really convenient out of the five that voted for Nick, you are the only one alive. How the fuck did that happen? Are you that lucky? Or did the wolves know which one not to eat at night. Bravo for pulling out the thorners. You must have liked how I pulled out at the last minute so that you only had four to kill and not five.

Now, the question is that, if you were the seer, why come out now? There are still, according to you, two werewolves out. If we kill Gronks tonight, the seer becomes worthless. So, in that case, the seer couldn't find out if you were a werewolf or not. How do you know there are four werewolves?

If you are the seer, you have been shit. You've withheld information. You've acted against your own information. You've also been the luckiest shit by staying alive.

If you are the alpha, then you have had a marvelous performance. You know when to kill your own to hide your own lycanthropy. You rooted out the thorners and stood by them as you bit them from the back.

I have no defense for Gronks, though. I can't tell if he is human or not. And, by his actions, he doesn't seem to be the seer. So, if we kill him, at worst, we will be losing a villager. Also, it seems that the mob has its pitchforks up and ready, so my vote wouldn't do anything anyway.

Have fun, I'll be at the bar.

v21 said @ 2:04pm GMT on 3rd May
This is really interesting. I'm not sure if I'm entirely persuaded - but it certainly does change your perspective somewhat. The ploy would only work if gronk was a wolf though, so it's still wise to vote that way.

And there are weirdnesses - like, how come the Thorners were all over Nick? How, other than the revenge on Nick, did the wolves know the Thorners? I suspected at the time that someone had leaked the Thorners identities to the wolves via PM. I still do.

LeavemeAlone said @ 2:30pm GMT on 3rd May
Well, here is the thing. If someone did tip off the Thorners to Nick, then it couldn't have been the Cap'n. By his own admission, capnSilver did not know that Nick was the werewolf. But then, as follows is a message that remiq sent me.

Hello LeaveMeAlone,

my name is remiq and I will probably die today.
As I can see, we agree that no-lynch tactic makes no good. You seem to belive in stats I presented to convince everyone about it. I'm not asking you trust me completely. I'm asking you to save a person who shares your point of view.

If you want to help me, please vote for Nick. I don't know if he is a wolf to
be honest with you. I ask you to choose between me and maybe another human.

Thank you in advance or goodbye,
remiq.

PS. This message was also sent to (edited out)

And yes, that player is still alive.

thumble said @ 9:05pm GMT on 3rd May
Want a real psych out? How do you know me and Silver aren't the last wolves, and knowing there's a high possibility we've got all the Thorners we've carefully masterminded this cunning plan to end the game in our favour?

Just kidding.

If there's any doubt about my identity of Thorn I direct everyone to remiq's post during night one.

If you take the last letter of every item on his little shopping list before the brackets, ie:

Sharp saber (solitude father's) (how he got that, beats me)

And read them backwards, you'll find a secret message.

I could provide plenty more evidence, but I really think that should suffice.

And as for Silver, well I honestly can't vouch for him, I deduced his identity as seer from conversations he had with other Thorns and approached him of my own volition. Only myself and remiq actually revealed ourselves as Thorn to him. The lynching of Nick was particularly clumsy of our little faction, and has obviously led to death for all concerned. Until Narren came up hairy and fangy I wasn't sure about Silver, and since nobody else seems to have approached anyone else with even a remote claim to seerage I'm certain he's our man.

gronk23 said @ 8:19pm GMT on 3rd May
Thank you. Unfortunately I haven't been able to watch this unfold as everyone started voting against me (12 hour day java coding, sorry, I don't have the energy left to stay in character)

You guys are being seriously bamboozled by CapnSilver.

solitude said @ 1:04am GMT on 4th May
Bastard! Making me all doubty and stuff again.

CapnSilver said @ 3:30am GMT on 4th May
I've been shit?
Least I've, y'know, been playing this game. With the posting of votes and who I think is being shifty. I've lasted this long, the same as you have, by flying under the radar. You, however, burrowed deep underground.
This is your longest and most astute post yet. I reckon you're protesting just a little too much. (Remember, Leavemealone hasn't been investigated. Alpha)

I thought remiq was the alpha. That's why I voted for him. And me, questioning Avid? That was to COVER UP the fact I could be seer. I also said I doubted the seer contacted thumble and told his narren was a wolf. But you know, I'd done it a few days before.

Ok. So, onto Narren. With the protector gone, how was I going to get everyone on board at that point without attracting suspicion?
And who do I check next? I had no hints at that point, but I figured that with the knowledge that the big N man was a wolf, I could get a few pointers. Didn't work out too well. Took me another few goes to find a werewolf.

But I did. And, if you're townie, you should be happy, because I've just put us in a position to win. I'm assuming 3 wolves and 1 alpha, and if that's correct, we can't lose. If I'm wrong, keep lynching my shortlist. On which you happen to be on.

gronk23 said @ 8:15pm GMT on 3rd May
I don't expect to be able to save myself at this point. I am just glad that my death will help us flush out another werewolf, and maybe two. I realize I was wrong for suspecting remiq, but apparently he was unknowingly in cahoots with the wolves. That has given the wolves some influence over the thorners apparently, which has led to a lot of needless villager deaths. I don't know who the real seer is, but if I've REALLY been investigated perhaps you could help me out here? It's getting down to the wire...

Take a look at CapnSilver folks...

CapnSilver said @ 1:01am GMT on 3rd May
Also, if anyone would like to play the sequel to this game, SensibleSopranos, a mafia themed game, then please PM me. I'd like to get a largish number of people.

The other thought I had was an SE themed game with Trolls and tampride as the alpha....

shiney things said @ 8:41am GMT on 3rd May
i already pm'd you, but i am so enthusiastic about playing the next game that im commenting too. i wanna play! i wanna play so hard.

Jewbacchus said @ 8:45am GMT on 3rd May
i'm down

juju said @ 12:56pm GMT on 3rd May
PM already sent as well. I'm definitely pumped about it.

RajaYoga said @ 1:05pm GMT on 3rd May
I've been waiting for the next game to start...
I'm In!

v21 said @ 2:09pm GMT on 3rd May [Score:1 Interesting]
I have an idea for a game after that - based on The Thing by John Carpenter.

mrslippyfist said @ 1:46am GMT on 3rd May
God damn it. ITS THE FUCKING PRIEST!!! ITS ALWAYS THE FUCKING PRIEST!!!

remiq said @ 2:31am GMT on 3rd May
It's always a mysterious stranger.

Narrator Avid said @ 4:31am GMT on 3rd May [Score:3 Informative]
CAST YOUR VOTES BELOW! VOTING ENDS SATURDAY!

Avid said @ 4:35am GMT on 3rd May
I vote to lynch Gronk23

Kimota said @ 4:43am GMT on 3rd May [Score:1 Insightful]
Aw, crap. I knew I was forgetting something...

thumble said @ 5:29am GMT on 3rd May
Well, obviously I vote to LYNCH gronk23.

If we count CapnSilver's vote (and clearly we should), there's no way the two remaining wolves can turn the tide on today's lynching. Unless anyone actually doesn't believe our story. But I obviously can, will and do confirm that I've been in cahoots with Silver for quite some time, and yesterday's success was a direct result of our collaboration. And I'm also the loneliest anti-monarchy conspirator in town right now. Anyone want to join the Thorn? Democracy works! Think about it!

We're set for a thrilling endgame, hunting down that alpha.

solitude said @ 8:14am GMT on 3rd May
Down with the king!

gronk23 said @ 8:14pm GMT on 3rd May
How do you know there are two remaining wolves I wonder?

thumble said @ 8:44pm GMT on 3rd May
Speculation cleverly disguised as fact.

kishi said @ 10:06pm GMT on 3rd May
Kimota does use the plural when describing Remiq's death in the description. Metagaming, hence, leads folks to believe there's at least two.

Kimota said @ 10:38pm GMT on 3rd May
I will always use the plural, either refering to Thorners or werewolves.

solitude said @ 7:14am GMT on 3rd May
naturally:

I vote Gronk23

v21 said @ 10:34am GMT on 3rd May
I vote to lynch Gronk23.

plexer said @ 11:45am GMT on 3rd May
I vote gronk23

plexer said @ 9:58pm GMT on 3rd May
I unvote Gronk23

gronk23 said @ 8:21pm GMT on 3rd May
I vote to lynch thumble

Jestyr said @ 11:25pm GMT on 3rd May
ooh, nice cover

Jestyr said @ 11:53pm GMT on 3rd May
what fun. Things seem to have gotten down to the nitty-gritty. Who do we trust?

for the moment I vote to lynch Gronk23

we'll see how that works out. I could see this as a last ditch sacrifice on the pack's part to divert trust to the alpha. Or, less likely, someone just trying to pre-emptively save his ass.

in either case, we might well get a wolf out of the deal, and if we don't, we know who's going down "tomorrow." Things get interesting when you try and figure out the day after that, though...

Jestyr said @ 11:54pm GMT on 3rd May
oh, and in either case, I still vote that we feed everyone the capn's silver brains if we don't know what to do at a later date.

mmmm, silver brains...

solitude said @ 1:02am GMT on 4th May
There is also still the chance he's the alpha and sacrificing every wolf late on in the game to gain the trust. But then why wouldn't the real seer have made himself known? Possibly to avoid the alpha. And why havent we heard from the real seer before? Well because he mistakenly trusted the wrong guy (wolf) and the wolves subsequently killed all his trustees.

The problem at this point mostly is, we don't have a whole lot of choice to trust CapnSilver. The only 100% way would be to lynch him and see if he is the seer. But I think that that would be very foolish to do so.

thumble said @ 5:35am GMT on 3rd May
You know what would be a fun experiment for today? A double lynching. If we agree that after gronk we want to kill... oh I dunno... let's say plexer for arguments sake... why not arrange to have both him and confirmed wolf gronk both killed today, save us a day and maybe we win this here and now.

solitude said @ 7:16am GMT on 3rd May
Could work, but if we kill the wrong one wouldn't we lessen our chances?

Avid said @ 8:43am GMT on 3rd May [Score:1 Insightful]
Day 1: v=5 w=1 f+s=3/8 f=5/24; s=1/6 Day 2: W v=4 w=0 SUCCEED Day 2: V v=3 w=1 f+s=1/4 f=0; s=1/4 Day 3: VW v=2 w=0 SUCCEED Day 3: VV v=1 w=1 FAIL -==||Summary||==- Villagers: 5 Werewolves: 1 ----------- Total: 6 Odds of winning: 3/8 (37.5%) Day 1: v=6 w=1 f+s=19/35 f=2/5; s=1/7 Day 2: W v=5 w=0 SUCCEED Day 2: V v=4 w=1 f+s=7/15 f=4/15; s=1/5 Day 3: VW v=3 w=0 SUCCEED Day 3: VV v=2 w=1 f+s=1/3 f=0; s=1/3 Day 4: VVW v=1 w=0 SUCCEED Day 4: VVV v=0 w=1 FAIL -==||Summary||==- Villagers: 6 Werewolves: 1 ----------- Total: 7 Odds of winning: 19/35 (54.2857142857143%)

A double lynch just makes the process faster, since we already know who we want to lynch.

If we could pull off a triple or quadruple lynch, then we'd get an extra chance if the person is not among the three earmarked by CapnSilver.

We could allow a multi-lynch vote, and then everyone could vote for the triple, but the wolves could vote in one more lynch on the side.

So this isn't going to work; We just have to hope that we have the right three people.

solitude said @ 11:53am GMT on 3rd May
Yeah the wolves (wolf singular?) could throw things off quite a bit, and obviously the people being voted for won't play along nicely. Let's just see how far we can get. But at least our odds are a lot better than they seemed a couple of days ago.

I had a whole lot of people guessed wrongly. In hindsight it all fits nicely. And it seems the thorners and seer were more organised than I expected.

Just glad we have a good chance now!

enjoi52 said @ 9:04am GMT on 3rd May
dude, capnsilver has to go
the only reason he is not dead is because HE IS THE ALPHA WOLF!
geez, that was easy.

kishi said @ 1:25pm GMT on 3rd May
Wha... But... His name says silver in it! It can't be!

Class1Product said @ 9:41am GMT on 3rd May
I still don't understand this game

Caffeine said @ 10:38am GMT on 3rd May
Read up. It's pretty simple.

Starjump said @ 11:51am GMT on 3rd May [Score:-5 Flamebait]
goddam get a fuckin life...

Kimota said @ 2:03pm GMT on 3rd May
Hi. Here's the thing:

There's only nine players left. Maybe waiting two days for everyone to vote is a little too much. And I 'm certainly waiting for SensibleSopranos to start. So here's my idea:

The "day" turn should end wherever there's a majority of votes against one suspect. Something like half the population plus one. In this case, there should not be ties, being the number of players left odd (if there is a "no lynching" vote and the number becomes even, we could always choose a new major whose vote would untie the thing)

Now, to do that, I'm going to need you all to vote for it under this comment, and I'll apply this rule only if at least six of you vote for it.

Yay or nay?

afakaz said @ 5:05pm GMT on 3rd May
Not a player, but this seems foolish to me, as it does not allow people to change their vote past the point of a majority decision.

Kimota said @ 10:42pm GMT on 3rd May
Good point. However, the dynamic of the game usually is such that, at first, there will be a lot of scattered votes, making it difficult to reach a consensus and giving the player a long time to vote and unvote, while at the end of the game everyone has more or less similar priorities, making a change of heart unlikely.

kishi said @ 7:34pm GMT on 3rd May
That's how I played the game. The moment you had a majority (half+1) the mob killed off that person- no time for, "Wait, no, I change my mind!" 'Cause, you know, mobs don't care that much by that point.

Aw, crap, I shouldn't say I know too much about mobs. I'll be seen with suspicion in Sensible Sopranos.

Jestyr said @ 11:56pm GMT on 3rd May
I'm for the idea. I've been waiting to cast votes and what-not lately just to see what full discussion brings, but speeding things up probably wouldn't change all that much. Might spice things up a bit, in either case.

f00m@nB@r said @ 3:30pm GMT on 3rd May
this is like big brother. without the nudity.

LeavemeAlone said @ 3:44pm GMT on 3rd May
Now, it would actually be more entertaining if they made Big Brother into Werewolf. After all, it is something to live in a home with different other people. Imagine living in that home and having to try to figure out who is trying to kill you.

eightysix said @ 6:51pm GMT on 3rd May
and you find halfway through the series that one of the werewolves is your sibling, separated at birth. torn between humanity and familial priorities, you're so torn that you act as a secret in-between between wolf and .. this practically writes itself.

thumble said @ 8:46pm GMT on 3rd May
There was a show down here in Aus a few years ago that ran for a few seasons, I think it was a UK format, called "The Mole". Basically a team challenge game but one of the "contestants" is the Mole and is working against the interests of the team as a whole. And instead of voting people were quizzed at the end of an episode about the identity of the Mole (things like what colour shirt was the Mole wearing on Monday) and whoever had the worst quiz marks got the boot.

CapnSilver said @ 3:39am GMT on 4th May
Can you believe there are 22 people who want to play the sequel so far?

There will be a few rule changes and you'll be expected to actively participate.

There are still places available. Exact number is unsure. Kimota, I'm reserving you a spot unless you tell me otherwise.