Sensible Erection | SENSIBLE HOWLING

Monday, 23 April 2007

quote [ The body produces an abnormal amount of hair. ]

"The town sleeped with a bit more ease, after having captured one of the werewolves. The spirits were high, and with a little luck, the Protector would have protected tonight's victim.

They woke up and went to the main street, to make sure that everybody else was all right. unfortunately, endopol, the carpenter was missing. Wearily, they entered his house, and run outside again to throw up: endopol was missing half of his head, his face replaced by skull. He had been suspended in the middle of the room with barb-wire ropes, and his intestines were all over the floor. With his blood, the wolves had written a message on one of the walls: "We know who you are, and you are next!"

The Necromancer appeared, and examined poor endopol unimpressed. "He was the one who claimed to be the protector", he said. "He should have protected himself. Oh, well, I figure the wolves got even."

Another long day was starting."

CAST:

gronk23, the town's poet
~~endopol, the carpenter~~ Protector. Killed by werewolves.
Context, the local drunk
~~scarshapedstar, the bailiff.~~ Innocent. Lynched.
Narrenschiff, a mysterious stranger
~~BobTWC, the mayor.~~ Innocent. Lynched.
LeavemeAlone, an old retired sailor

Barnabas Truman, the innkeeper
plexer, the apothecary
Jestyr, a grain farmer
thumble, an old warrior
TheCooler, a turnip farmer
solitude, the blacksmith
~~mouse, the handyman~~ Innocent. Killed by the werewolves

capnSilver, a swineherd
~~Nick, the baker~~ Werewolf. Lynched.
~~badgerbaiter, a dairy farmer.~~ Thorner. Killed by werewolves.
crad, a gong farmer
remiq, a thief
Avid, the barber and dentist
v21, the town's priest

*Non-players, please, refrain from commenting strategy*

[games] [by Kimota@6:19pmGMT] [+10 Good]

Comments

f00m@nB@r said @ 6:25pm GMT on 23rd Apr [Score:2 Funny]
/me opens a body waxing salon

CapnSilver said @ 6:34pm GMT on 23rd Apr
Mother fucker!
Okay, here's the plan: Vote Plexer.
Nick the "Seer" said he was innocent. That's good enough for me.

Context said @ 6:37pm GMT on 23rd Apr
Yes indeed. Plexer, what have you to say for yourself?

plexer said @ 8:55pm GMT on 23rd Apr
Well, firstly that I'm not a werewolf.

And secondly - if we assume one family of werewolves (which I believe we have?) then we can assume they all know each other.

Claiming to be the Seer was a last ditch effort by Nick to get un-lynched (at that stage he already had an overwhelming majority of votes). It was also a fairly transparent ruse and it seems that most people saw through it.

So, given those two facts, it wouldn't make sense for Nick to say that a fellow werewolf was innocent. If his plan failed, then he would be lynched, and the people he 'seered' would be an obvious target [this thread being proof of that].

If he succeeded, then the next night he could have pretended to query a fellow werewolf. With people already accepting his position as Seer he could be a lot more confident that people would buy him passing a werewolf off as a villager.

CapnSilver said @ 9:31pm GMT on 23rd Apr
Okay, he said what he said with the hope of being believed, right?

Now if he said you were a wolf, I would have no doubts of your humanity.

But he said you were town. Now if the real seer investigates you and it comes up town, that still wont be good enough for me, because now I think you're the alpha.

I'm sorry dude, but only your death will closure to this tale.

solitude said @ 10:07pm GMT on 23rd Apr
Of course he hoped to be believed. But the votes were so far against him, that I don't think he really believed it would work. So I think he wouldn't implicate a connection with another wolf. However we have absolutely no way of knowing, until death befalls plexer.

I think it's dangerous to start a bandwagon, fueled by wolf suggestions, so early on in the day. But for now it seems the best bet we've got.

plexer said @ 3:11am GMT on 24th Apr
"Okay, he said what he said with the hope of being believed, right?"

Only the part about him being the Seer. I don't think he had much of an agenda other than trying to avoid lynching (not at that stage in the vote anyway).

"Now if he said you were a wolf, I would have no doubts of your humanity."

He wouldn't have been able to pull this off. If I was a wolf, why wasn't he trying to lead a bandwagon against me (he could have done this without revealing he was the Seer).

CapnSilver said @ 3:40am GMT on 24th Apr
"I'm sorry dude, but only your death will closure to this tale."

Narrenschiff said @ 4:55am GMT on 24th Apr
Yeah... pretty much.

v21 said @ 7:05am GMT on 24th Apr
You've got me very suspicious of plexer, but I still don't think he is.

"Now if he said you were a wolf, I would have no doubts of your humanity."
If Nick had escaped lynching by making us buy the lie, and said plexer was a wolf, then plexer would be next in line. And then Nick would be revealed. So he wasn't going to call any wolves. And if he had escaped lynching, then he would be in a far safer position to protect the wolves.

Instead, I vote Context. He defended Nick, which is far more suspicious than being innocent on Nick's list.

But what about the first day?, I hear you call. Well, he put forward Nick, but then dampened suggestions as quickly as possible, shoving forward BobWTC instead. His argument was

"Context said @ 8:44am on 15th Apr - moderate/reply
And Nick, possibly, because he was fairly quick to suggest a lynching, although I don't think that would weigh as heavily as defending someone else."

Which doesn't make sense, given that BobWTCs defense would only be suspicious if Nick was a wolf. So it makes sense for him to have reasons to save Nick other than the stated ones. The whole thing stinks of a wolf ploy.

But mainly it's cuz he went to such lengths to defend Nick, all on his lonesome.

Narrenschiff said @ 7:17am GMT on 24th Apr
Agreed-- the first day switcheroo seems very suspect.

Context said @ 8:57am GMT on 24th Apr
I wasn't defending Nick, I was defending the possibility of us lynching a Seer. One more day wouldn't have hurt, but believe me, I was incredibly wary at his statement. I would have preferred to err on the side of caution, and fortunately, nobody erred.

As for the first day, Nick's aggression initially caused me to accuse him. I switched votes because BOBTWC defended someone else, which seemed even more suspicious. Sure, he could have been a Thorner, but I figured I had a 50/50 chance of him being a wolf. *sigh* how I miss those naive days.

solitude said @ 11:18am GMT on 24th Apr
Ok I don't think you deserve the heat you're getting, however I don't agree with you on one think. One more day does hurt. The way things are going now, there are 5 innocents killed for every wolf, there are 15 of us left. Of which at least 2 and possibly 3 are wolves. If the trend continues we'll need 10 innocents for 2 wolves... leaving only 3 people in the end. Whether those 2 innocents then kill the right one becomes a game of chance and our odds become pretty bad.

I don't know If the trend will continue like this, but considering how things are going we can't waste time by having more wolves around.

The only good thing about keeping a wolf around is that his alliances are possibly slightly easilyer exposed. However proposing that keeping a wolf alive wouldn't be bad is suspect at least.

Context said @ 11:34am GMT on 24th Apr
My only point there, really, was that if he were the Seer, it would be incredibly bad. I wasn't convinced of his guilt in the first place, and I was wanting to explore the No Lynch theory, so I was biased there. Now that we don't have a Protector, and the Seer won't be able to come out of hiding, that theory should be re-evaluated.

I think we should go after people who are in league with Nick. I realize that I am the first on that suspect list. So, in keeping with my theory I offer myself up first to be lynched, but don't let my innocence dissuade you, because it's the best theory we have. I'd be all right being lynched, but only because I don't need to be alive to win.

And you guys had better win if I get lynched.

remiq said @ 11:44am GMT on 24th Apr
> because I don't need to be alive to win.
In my opinion, when you're dead, you've lost.
Victory of your option is just a second prize.

solitude said @ 12:22pm GMT on 24th Apr [Score:1 Underrated]
In my opinion it's great to survive to the end, but if you don't then having your side win is still victory in my opinion. It's a team effort after all. You can't win this game by yourself.

remiq said @ 12:35pm GMT on 24th Apr
Wanna bet?

This game is about gathering info, bluffing and convincing others to do what you suggest. There is no team effort when you can't trust your teammates. What was your role, your part of a win, when you are simple citizen voting like a crazy mob?

Context said @ 6:36pm GMT on 23rd Apr
Awh, damn. No protector. Which means the Seer needs to hope he finds a Thorner.

So, next step would be figuring out who Nick was protecting?

solitude said @ 7:50pm GMT on 23rd Apr
And he needs to do so before another thorner gets killed. I'm guessing there are probably 3 (or hopefully 4) thorners. One is already dead. So when another is killed, there is only 1 and that alliance becomes worthless.

Bob LLama said @ 6:40pm GMT on 23rd Apr
Tally:

Werewolves: 3.5 (bonus 0.5 for killing a protector)
Thorns: -1
Humans: -1

vahid said @ 6:48pm GMT on 23rd Apr

looks familiar?

CapnSilver said @ 6:56pm GMT on 23rd Apr
This is also in english.
Kitty cats getting high. So funny.

And inspiring.

gronk23 said @ 7:07pm GMT on 23rd Apr
On the plus side the narration is excellent...

TheCooler said @ 12:52am GMT on 24th Apr
I;m sorry about that crack at your mother.

gronk23 said @ 3:53am GMT on 24th Apr [Score:1 Funny]
Boy, if I had a dime for everytime someone had a crack at my mother...

Mad Lobster said @ 7:16pm GMT on 23rd Apr
something something something Dark Side
something something something Complete

solitude said @ 7:46pm GMT on 23rd Apr
Holy fuck! This pretty much means were up shit-creak right? Whoever the seer is needs to be a whole lot more careful now, because if we lose him as well then we're truly done for.

I'm at a loss for words. Such a harsh contrast from yesterday's festivities. May he rest in peace.

Barnabas_Truman said @ 9:42pm GMT on 23rd Apr [Score:1 Funny]
If your shit creaks, you need more fiber in your diet.

solitude said @ 10:15pm GMT on 23rd Apr
I just think I had a drink too many yesterday after the werewolf lynching. Good stuff... you brew your own?

Narrenschiff said @ 7:48pm GMT on 23rd Apr
Aw, fuck!

plexer said @ 8:59pm GMT on 23rd Apr
Apologies for not posting yesterday - my internet was eaten by a werewolf.

Also at the risk of the rest of SE getting sick of it, can we have day and night posts? It took me a while yesterday to realize the day was already over since Kimota's comment was embedded half way down the page.

CapnSilver said @ 9:28pm GMT on 23rd Apr [Score:2 Funny]
fuck the rest of SE

solitude said @ 12:42am GMT on 24th Apr
Especially the girls.

But on a serious note, It'd be nice if Kimota just changed the title of the post to: Day Three (now over)

eskimonoise said @ 9:37pm GMT on 23rd Apr
So what's the point in making a game for approximately 1/1000th of the SE population and then telling "non players" to keep quiet and not try to join in?

Speared said @ 9:41pm GMT on 23rd Apr
Something can still be interesting to watch, even if you don't participate. And hey, maybe next time you'll actually sign up for something like this. But joining in right now might ruin and spam up the game for those who are playing.

Bob LLama said @ 10:22pm GMT on 23rd Apr [Score:3 Insightful]
Something can still be interesting to watch, even if you don't participate.

Example.

gronk23 said @ 3:55am GMT on 24th Apr
Personally, I'd like to join in on that one.

PTA_Ninja said @ 9:45pm GMT on 23rd Apr
cuz ur input would fuck up the game. Is that difficult to comprehend?

eskimonoise said @ 10:06pm GMT on 23rd Apr
For me SE isn't the right place to do this, sure make a post about it and maybe another to announce the results. But do we really need a running commentary almost every day?
Kimota should really make a site for it, it's not as if hosting isn't cheap (or free)

solitude said @ 10:09pm GMT on 23rd Apr [Score:4 Underrated]
As Kimota and others have commented. This is an experiment to see how the SE community reacts and such. Possibly a site will spring up for this. www.sensiblehowling.com or something. If you are so much opposed to SE having this game, then why don't you buy the domain, fork it over to me, and I'll build the site for it.

lilmookieesquire said @ 3:47am GMT on 24th Apr
That's just what a werewolf would say. In fact... I think you are ALL werewolves!

It's a well know fact wolfman has nards.

Jestyr said @ 9:11am GMT on 24th Apr
Wolfman doesn't have nards!!!

lilmookieesquire said @ 1:03pm GMT on 24th Apr
*kick*

Jestyr said @ 1:12pm GMT on 24th Apr
*gasp* WOLFMAN HAS NARDS!!!

PTA_Ninja said @ 10:31pm GMT on 23rd Apr
yes if there was to be many more of these type posts i could see putting an end to it but i also dont think its about to spread like wildfire here there are sites dedicated to this type of thing already where folks can get their fix.

however they are in the middle of an interesting game and i kinda wanna see who wins.

if you don't find it interesting don't click. if you want to vote lymch sensible howling just downmod it

solitude said @ 10:39pm GMT on 23rd Apr [Score:2 Insightful]
Also funny that SE not being the place for this, the posts have consistently gotten +10's and a lot of those votes are not from players.

5 + votes from non-players is just about as much as from players themselves. So it seems a lot more SE-ers are interrested.

eightysix said @ 6:13am GMT on 24th Apr [Score:1 Underrated]
i'm upmodding. it's interesting to watch ((and probably more interesting to play nudgenudgewinkwink)) and make calls and watch some more to see if you're right.

it might be because of a pr0n drought, but this is the post i look out for daily.

of course if this downmodding continues, kimota might be put off it entirely and there still will be a lack of porn and we'll be very unhappy people.

Caffeine said @ 9:28am GMT on 24th Apr [Score:1 Underrated]
I'm not playing, and I also watch for each new post with interest. Watching to see what happens, and who turns out to be what, and the grand paranoia. It's great fun.
I really want to see this, and things like this, keep going. It's not like it's bringing down the average quality of posts or something. It's genuinely interesting, and much better than tamp and madpride spamming their dumb fucking shit every day.

motojunkie69 said @ 3:43pm GMT on 24th Apr
This is much more interesting to watch play out than most fiction being written today. It's like a novel exploding right before my eyes! yay!

GehnRahl said @ 10:00pm GMT on 23rd Apr
Yeah, I fully endorse Kimota to do this again. Just watching makes me want to plan the next round because I find it so fascinating.

skainsmate said @ 10:18pm GMT on 23rd Apr
Yeah, I'm totally playing next round.

Vernes said @ 4:35am GMT on 24th Apr
me too

juju said @ 5:06am GMT on 24th Apr
I'd want to play also, and it sounds like we'll have a ridiculous amount of people if everyone actually agrees to play next round. Imagine how long it would take to get to where voting didn't seem just plain old random....

Context said @ 10:38pm GMT on 23rd Apr
I'll certainly be playing again. But I warn you, you will be biting your fingernails (or claws) with anxiety.

solitude said @ 12:43am GMT on 24th Apr
Fuck yeah. And constantly thinking: shit, that could have been me.

eightysix said @ 6:14am GMT on 24th Apr
or "shit, i do not want to suffer the same fate as BobTWC."

solitude said @ 7:37am GMT on 24th Apr
Bob's death at least was civilized. I don't want my intestines everywhere. And messages written in my blood.

skainsmate said @ 3:16pm GMT on 24th Apr
Lynchings are civilized?

Nick, the lone wolf spirit said @ 4:16pm GMT on 24th Apr
Mine bloody well wasn't. It was a very rude and confrontational affair, especially that bit with the spears.

Oh yes, that reminds me. Why are you silly humans still holding lynchings when the last one failed to kill a werewolf and you had to run me through with silver? I suggestion execution by silver dildo from now on.

Makopelli said @ 5:12am GMT on 24th Apr
I don't agree with the downmod, but I totally agree that posting in a public forum and telling other people not to discuss the goings-on is weak. Beyond that, I think this is pretty cool.

CapnSilver said @ 10:48pm GMT on 23rd Apr [Score:1 Informative]
I'll actually narrate the next round unless anyone has any problems with it.

eightysix said @ 6:17am GMT on 24th Apr
that'll give kimota a well deserved chance to play too.

Context said @ 11:25am GMT on 24th Apr
I don't see any problem with that. What theme would you go with?

badgerbaiter said @ 12:25pm GMT on 24th Apr
I would like to play with Kimota.......

(I would like to play again!!!)

Avid said @ 12:51am GMT on 24th Apr
I always fucking miss the vote, so i'm casting mine early this time:

I vote to lynch Narrenschiff

Note his exclamation above: "Aw, fuck!". Sounds like a werewolf.

CapnSilver said @ 12:57am GMT on 24th Apr
How do you get that??

solitude said @ 1:19am GMT on 24th Apr
There were about 6 people going aw fuck. They can't all be wolves. Even remiq's quality maths at least had a basis in reality.

Narrenschiff said @ 4:56am GMT on 24th Apr [Score:1 Funny]
Aw, fuck!

Context said @ 9:00am GMT on 24th Apr
I think there are much better reasons to point a vote in a direction. How... strange, and seemingly random.

solitude said @ 10:49am GMT on 24th Apr
And dare I add... suspect!

remiq said @ 2:27am GMT on 24th Apr
Let's get back to my list:

remiq said @ 10:29am on 22nd Apr - moderate/reply
I suspect:
~~Nick~~
crad
Narrenschiff
Context

What do you think about them?

CapnSilver said @ 3:06am GMT on 24th Apr
Add plex and jestyr and I think we've got ourselves a lynch mob.

CapnSilver said @ 3:07am GMT on 24th Apr
Jestyr for trying to save nick by voting no lynch. Yeah it was too late, but it was still a vote

Jestyr said @ 9:14am GMT on 24th Apr
course, I was, y'know, wrong. Call me a-blushing about that one.

solitude said @ 4:51am GMT on 24th Apr
Why these people? Context and Narrenschiff have been active contributors to the discussion, but crad has hardly said a word since day one.

Not sure if that's a good thing or a bad. But that's hardly a base for accusation. There are after all more who have been keeping quiet, eg. avid and jestyr.

And though I suspect context and narrenschiff myself I don't suspect them more than a lot of other players right now.

CapnSilver said @ 4:56am GMT on 24th Apr
All things being equal, can you come up with a reason to not lynch those guys in favour of others?

While remiq maybe the colloquial loose cannon, he was onto something with nick, and was onto something with nick a while back. I think he may be more astute than we think?

Also: Narren has said fuck all. Mainly ellipsises (...'s) and random accusations from memory.

Narrenschiff said @ 6:57am GMT on 24th Apr
Well, I don't want to be slinging the shit when it's uncertain. I don't really know what's happening around here, but if you insist, I currently suspect plexer on the grounds of Nick's 'seering'. That's it for now.

Narrenschiff said @ 6:59am GMT on 24th Apr
On the subject of the quiet folks, why have we stopped entertaining the possibility that all the wolves are simply keeping fairly quiet? If that was their tactic, we'd be missing it entirely pushing our suspicions onto the vocal. It's far from unlikely-- Nick may have been their spokesman.

v21 said @ 7:08am GMT on 24th Apr
I don't think we have. But it's harder to tell when you say less, so they won't get the consensus necessary.

Narrenschiff said @ 7:19am GMT on 24th Apr
It's sort of a catch-22 then, isn't it? It's wise to continue our current line of investigation if there isn't a Silent Wolf ploy, yet it would be a grave error to simply ignore the "inactive".

Jestyr said @ 9:18am GMT on 24th Apr
well, when it all boils down, this is a game of social interaction, right? Therefore, things are going to swing back and forth, really. People will accuse those who comment and make others uncomfortable in some way, and then they'll probably get suspicious of those who HAVEN'T said anything to make them suspicious...
What an awesome, paranoid game.

Context said @ 11:24am GMT on 24th Apr
Why do you think this game is awesome, huh!? Is it because you're a wolf and the wolves are winning? Just what are you hiding, Jestyr?

Jestyr said @ 12:09pm GMT on 24th Apr
My own personal theory is I'm hiding being a communist. But I've been known to be wrong before, maybe I'm just a red.

solitude said @ 7:46am GMT on 24th Apr
No, no reason whatsoever. As we currently stand everyone is as suspect as anyone. At least none other than those suggestions I gave earlier. However I've learnt from my mistake yesterday in prematurely accusing anyone. Even if that someone himself calls for a vote for the medieval tampride as mayor.

I had every reason to initially vote remiq, gave a lot of valid reasons, however it still seemed I was wrong. So at the moment I have absolutely no idea. But considering how loose a canon remiq has been, even though he got a good guess, doesn't mean he actually knows any more than the rest of us.

There are several tactics we could use. We could go for the plexer vote, just to eliminate the possibility Nick was trying to do a last-ditch protection of a fellow wolf. Or we could just lynch Crad (a more silent (read: less missed for his intellectual input into this game) player), and see how remiq's theory pans out.

gronk23 said @ 8:03am GMT on 24th Apr
Are you offering to take up Crad's job after he's lynched? There's a lot of gong in this town...

v21 said @ 8:09am GMT on 24th Apr
I wanna hear rationale behind crad, than just remiq's say-so.

remiq said @ 8:32am GMT on 24th Apr
Remiq say-so is nice argument. I like it.

crad said @ 11:09am on 22th Apr - moderate/reply
I'm a werewolf and Nick is too.

Is that what you expected?

solitude said @ 10:51am GMT on 24th Apr
If you'll read that comment in context there's a lot of sarcasm in that post.

Context said @ 11:23am GMT on 24th Apr
Yes. One must always remember me.

remiq said @ 11:46am GMT on 24th Apr
Sigh, let's get rid of the context...

gronk23 said @ 1:07pm GMT on 24th Apr
I vote to lynch context

gronk23 said @ 1:14pm GMT on 24th Apr
Context said @ 8:50am on 22nd Apr - moderate/reply
If you vote for no lynch, there's a good chance of sparing Nick, at least for now, until we know more.

Plus, right now, as odd as it sounds, I'm inclined to go with remiq's intuition...

/me ducks to avoid hurled objects.

remiq said @ 1:27pm GMT on 24th Apr
Erm, it was a joke. But thank you. I havn't decided who will I vote.

gronk23 said @ 2:25pm GMT on 24th Apr
I know, but I'm not convinced by his explanation of why he panicked and tried to save Nick at the last minute. Unless it's true...in which case I'll be the first to apologize to his corpse twitching on the gallows.

No offense, Context...

Context said @ 11:42am GMT on 24th Apr
I think I'm innocent.

Saint_Marck said @ 4:15am GMT on 24th Apr [Score:2]
I don't understand what's going on here... but the frequency of posts have dropped a lot lately, and I think people need to remember that SE has a spirit of openness. You should ignore assbags who criticize your posts categorically. If you see too many howling posts on SE, you should post something you like to even things out.

CapnSilver said @ 4:20am GMT on 24th Apr
So, Marck, can I take that as an expression of interest in "Sensible Sopranos"?

BTW: you're awesome.

Jewbacchus said @ 4:22am GMT on 24th Apr
NAG. NAG. NAG. NAG. NAG.

CapnSilver said @ 4:28am GMT on 24th Apr
See, I suck up to the owner, you just insult him.

Lets see who ascends to his right hand first, hmm?

Saint_Marck said @ 4:54am GMT on 24th Apr [Score:2 Interesting]
My right hand ascends into you!

solitude said @ 7:39am GMT on 24th Apr
Sort of like. If I stroke your ego, you will stroke me?

Jewbacchus said @ 5:46am GMT on 24th Apr
You should know by now that I secretly control everything

Context said @ 8:52am GMT on 24th Apr
I knew it, ya Jew!

Jewbacchus said @ 9:05am GMT on 24th Apr
Oh, did you get the joke!?

Context said @ 11:20am GMT on 24th Apr
*blank stare*

CapnSilver said @ 11:20am GMT on 24th Apr
I wanted to make a jew joke a while back, but didn't know how well it would go down.

Similar to eskimonoise.

f00m@nB@r said @ 5:02am GMT on 24th Apr
slept.

v21 said @ 6:36am GMT on 24th Apr
Here's the spreadsheet, if anyone wants it

Pope Chris P Bacon said @ 7:15am GMT on 24th Apr
nice spreadsheet you got there. (insert suggestive wink and awkward pause here)

Jestyr said @ 9:23am GMT on 24th Apr
hokey dokey. Once again, for the sake of making sure I don't drop off the planet and try and post things when the day is over,

I vote to lynch Context

cause I can't see any good reason to change my vote right now. Plex's name being dropped by nick doesn't actually make me suspicious, or at least it doesn't make me MORE suspicious. That being said, it's still early yet, and we've all seen how many times we all like changing our votes.

solitude said @ 10:55am GMT on 24th Apr
Shouldn't we be voting on the basis that we DO have a good reason to vote for them, instead of having no particular reason to switch votes away from them?

That said context has made some dubious comments, but then again a lot of other people (including you) have as well.

Jestyr said @ 10:58am GMT on 24th Apr
perhaps it would be more accurate for me to say "The reasons that I voted for him in the first place have not changed that I can see, and are still perfectly valid to me."

solitude said @ 11:23am GMT on 24th Apr
Could you recount those reasons, because I've a lot of suspicions (for many people) myself, and would like to see if things match up.

All an attempt to get a slight more intelligent mob-movement going.

Jestyr said @ 12:15pm GMT on 24th Apr [Score:1 Insightful]
gods, to recount everything, it would involve me going entirely through every post again over the first two days and most of the third...

It boils down to the head-butting between badgerbaiter and context, the general vibe context gave off in their dialogue, and then context's pushing for a no-lynch system that I felt couldn't work in such a profound way that to me, it seemed anyone who came up with the idea and pushed it as hard as he did would have to be suspect.

solitude said @ 10:52am GMT on 24th Apr [Score:2 Underrated]
To further aid us in our quest:

I vote to have kimota warn us a few hours before ending the day

CapnSilver said @ 11:24am GMT on 24th Apr
This is my reasoning for plex.
1, in a best case scenario, nick was believed for one day as the seer.
2, that night the real seer would assumedly investigate plex.
3, Coming up innocent, the seer would believe that plex IS innocent.
4, what a great way for the alpha to hide?
5, eating continues, unstopped by anyone.

Plex, if you're really innocent then well, fuck, but right now I want you swinging.

Context said @ 11:36am GMT on 24th Apr
You make a good point.

remiq said @ 11:54am GMT on 24th Apr
You're wrong.

1. ok
2. We lynch plexer to know if seer was saying the truth.
3a. Plexer is wolf, fake seer dies.
3b. Plexer is innocent, we belive in seer.

Your theory lacks a way to proxy message from seer to public. My theory shows how would mob check plex's innocence and Nick's seering skills.

solitude said @ 12:19pm GMT on 24th Apr
3a. is invalid, because Nick as a wolf obviously knows each and every other wolf. So he would either finger an innocent, or quite possibly the alpha. Which will both show up as an innocent.

The theory was perfectly valid. I don't know what the outcome will be but the reasoning is sound. There are two possible outcomes:

1. Plexer is the alpha wolf, which would exempt Plexer both in case of Nick's death, if the seer got a chance to seer him, and in case of life.
2. Plexer is an innocent, because Nick thought the chance of the alpha getting killed was too high.

Unfortunately there is only one way to find out.

solitude said @ 12:26pm GMT on 24th Apr
Shit sorry, you were actually right. I didn't read the comment thouroughly enough.

If the reel seer investigates plex and finds out he is innocent and the seer outs his findings, there is no way to find out which seer is the real one. However considering the possibility that if Nick survived he might well have been believed as the seer the other points still hold true.

Either plexer is an alpha wolf, or he is innocent. And only one way of finding out for sure.

Context said @ 11:39am GMT on 24th Apr
I vote to lynch plexer

It would seem that I'm going to be the one on the gallows this evening, but I'm going to cast my vote plexer's way, so that when I turn up innocent, he'll be investigated.

Quoth Jestyr:

"This is my reasoning for plex.
1, in a best case scenario, nick was believed for one day as the seer.
2, that night the real seer would assumedly investigate plex.
3, Coming up innocent, the seer would believe that plex IS innocent.
4, what a great way for the alpha to hide?
5, eating continues, unstopped by anyone."

Jestyr said @ 12:16pm GMT on 24th Apr
not that I don't like being referenced, talked about, and generally loved, but the good Capn said that.

Nick the lone wolf spirit said @ 1:19pm GMT on 24th Apr
Oooh, everyone's talking about me.

/does a vaudeville dance with a suggestively-placed croissant

solitude said @ 12:10pm GMT on 24th Apr
I think Context is mighty suspicious, but for now I can give him the benefit of the doubt. Consider the reasoning given by CapnSilver and Context. And after all plexer is keeping suspiciously to himself, and would be in line with at least some wolves staying more in the background.

My guess is this. At least one wolf is trying the extreme foreground route. Another is doing the lay-low tactic. And yet another is the middle of the road guy. If done like this Nick would be the high-profile one.

Now why would they do so? Well, if one strategy becomes uncovered they have a fallback in a group which no-one has investigated properly (mostly the lay-low people such as plexer, crad, possibly avid, etc.)

If we vote plexer now, and it turns out wrong, at least we'll know to go after Context. (unless I'm missing something, oh and we won't have lost an active player for nothing).

So until any better ideas pop up: I vote plexer

Jestyr said @ 12:17pm GMT on 24th Apr
hey, since everyone but me seems to know, how do I make it all bold when I make a vote? I'd like to be able to make this a bit easier for Kimota...

Caffeine said @ 12:21pm GMT on 24th Apr
Basic HTML bold tags.

solitude said @ 12:28pm GMT on 24th Apr
Just put these surrounding your vote when posting:

<b>The thing you want bold</b>

f00m@nB@r said @ 1:07pm GMT on 24th Apr
for a fun time:
<blink><marquee><span style="font-size:48pt;color:red;font-weight:bold;">do it like this</span></marquee></blink>

f00m@nB@r said @ 1:08pm GMT on 24th Apr
coffee

f00m@nB@r said @ 1:09pm GMT on 24th Apr
barbecue sauce

solitude said @ 12:32pm GMT on 24th Apr
Shit I keep wondering... we're probably being misdirected. So probably the plexer vote is a dud... so should we go after Context? Or is that the dud and should we stay with plexer. Or go for the double lynching and risk the chance to kill two innocents.

Any good idea's are very very welcome right now. I'll leave the vote as is for now, but am open to suggestions.

solitude said @ 12:32pm GMT on 24th Apr
Sleepdeprevation (and paranoia) is getting the worst of me. I'm going to have a lie-down and think this one over.

TheCooler said @ 1:08pm GMT on 24th Apr
I vote for plexyr

Narrenschiff said @ 2:44pm GMT on 24th Apr
You spelled his name wrong! That means your vote doesn't count.

Me, I still don't know who to vote for yet.

TheCooler said @ 2:53pm GMT on 24th Apr
Very well then, have it your way. I vote Narrenschiff! Is that spelled correctly for ya?

Narrenschiff said @ 3:30pm GMT on 24th Apr
:'(

This means revenge voting!

I vote TheCooler!

Nick, the lone wolf spirit said @ 3:37pm GMT on 24th Apr
Revenge voting, eh?

I vote for all of you lynching fuckers!